If anyone has a kid who has joined up or tried to join up with a DUI or other criminal history, would you please share your experience.
My kid is a senior in high school and wants to join the Air Force or Navy but messed up and got a DUI. His probation ends in May around graduation time and we can't speak with a recruiter while he is on probation and maybe even for a few months after, so we don't know what his chances are. If there is little chance of him being accepted, then we'll just accept it and send him off to college. Thanks.
He has to wait for 12 months after the DUI, if he has two or more "issues" he can not join
"c. Pre-Service Behind-The-Wheel Related Offenses. Individuals who have been convicted of an alcohol-related offense must be considered under the guidelines for processing applicants with past civil convictions. In this regard, two or more Behind-The-Wheel (BTW) convictions (such as driving while intoxicated (DWI), driving under the influence (DUI), operating under influence of alcohol (OUIL), driving while alcohol impaired (DWAI), etc.) can be indicative of a serious problem with alcohol. Whenever an applicant is adversely adjudicated for driving while under the influence of illegal drugs or alcohol, the offense is considered a BTW offense regardless of how the State terms the offense. As an example, a charge of DUI, which is reduced to reckless driving, is still considered a BTW offense if there was evidence presented that the driver was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Applicants with a BTW conviction must wait a mandatory period of one year from date of original offense before gained as an accession or affiliation. Applicants with multiple BTW convictions are ineligible for enlistment; however, an exceptionally qualified applicant who has shown evidence of having discontinued his/her abuse of alcohol or illegal drugs may request a waiver from COMNAVCRUITREG provided the person has no more than two BTWs and is not assessed onto active duty or gained as an affiliation until 12 months has elapsed since the date of the most recent BTW offense. The mandatory waiting period is not waiver-able."
Also if he is a senior in high school that means he was underage when he got the DUI, so that also means another waiver or more.
I wouldn't recommend he put all his eggs in one basket, the military is being picker and picker who they take...he can try, but he needs a back up plan.
Thank you so much! This is good news since he only has one and its almost been a year. Does this apply to all branches? Is information like this available on the internet somewhere? We have been getting most of our military info from about.com. We would love to get some more official information. I didn't understand what you meant about the the consequence of it being an underage DUI? Thanks again.
What Angie cited is found within the Recruiting Manual (http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/Directives/1130_8J%20VOL%20II...). ( I opened the "Find" window (ctrl F) and typed DWI to get to it the fastest.)
No that info is not for the other branches. I am saying if he was underage when this happened, it means that he has something else he needs a waiver for
you may think it is BS, but it is true. They also use race and gender on the advancements...yep true
It isn't in the FMS...but when the test results are done, they are not just put out. They (meaning people high up ) look at the scores and they look at the last one to get advanced..if they are not a female or a minority, they look at the first female or minority that didn't make it and review everything between the two. There is a lot more to it...
What is a nuke? We haven't started researching jobs yet since he can't even speak to a recruiter yet.
Nuclear Power Program. The toughest academic program in the Navy, with a minimum of two years of school. My nephew is a nuke and enjoys it a great deal. He;s on a sub, but there are plenty of billet on surface vessels also. Good job security after the Navy. Hard program though, lots of dropouts going to the fleet to do other jobs. If his math ans science aren't top notch, he may want to consider other options.
Most nukes score between 98 to 99 on the composite score. 95 might do it if scores on the math related stuff are superior. More importantly, you have to have an engineering mindset. There are other ratings that require similarly high scores too. In general, it more difficult to get into the Navy now than ever.
nw2this, good luck. 87 is a very good score. You son could be the "ASVAB for Dummies", study and try again to see if he can raise his score. Best of luck.
The Airforce recruiter said the only way he would put in for a waiver is if he signs up for Para Rescue, so the Navy it is.
He made it thru upper level Algebra but not thru Pre-Calc and Trig in high school so the Nuke program might be too much for him. Are there any other highly sought after jobs/programs besides the Nuke Program in case he can't get his score up that high.
Does he want a technical job? There is AECF, which is electronics technician pr fire controlman (firing missiles, not fighting fires). SECF is similar, but for subs. There are a number of engineering ratings, EN, EM, GSE. There's many more. Is he looking for surface, air, or subs? I was a surface sailor, so that's what I know off the top of my head.
I was not strong in math or science, and I did fine as an ET because the Navy program teaches the material one step at a time. If he is good at study and testing, then he can handle most of the programs.
Nuke does require a strong background. Crazy hard.