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Hey guys and gals.. so my wife is thinking about joining and we are newlyweds.. She is going to Meps next week and they told her we wont know her job choices until that day.. If applicable.. What jobs in the NAVY have an A school that is CO spousal? I forgot the word for it.. But the recruiter was saying that some job training you can bring your spouse but others you cant..  like if she was to choose nuclear energy from her choices.. Thats 2 and a half years you cant live your husband. So do any of you know which jobs would have A school that your spouse is allowed to come?   I know it might not be one of her options but it would be nice to know if they are availablbe. THANK you

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First, there is no school which keeps them away for two and a half years. Nukes can have their spouses there, although they don't spend very much time together.

Don't sweat the length of the training. Joining the Navy is tough because you will be apart more than a little often. You learn to shape your relationship as a couple around the separations. I didn't see my husband often the first two years of our marriage, we were both in the Navy! But we got through, and here we are more than 20 years later, happy and secure.

Hoppi is right, concentrate on finding a job she enjoys and can excel doing. If this is a career, and it could be, you want her to be happy. There's more to happiness than time with your spouse, it takes a larger vision of your future to see that far ahead. Support her, and know you'll be in for some rough patches. How rough depends much on your attitudes!

Best of luck!
my husband is at bootcamp right now. we were engaged and got married at the courthouse a month before he left. it sucks being apart, but in the end it will be worth it. he told me he wanted to do the navy so that he can make a better life for us together - i'm sure you're wife feels somewhat similar.

he's in the nuclear program, and i'm allowed to live on base with him. there are so many benefits that the navy offers sailors and their spouses. for instance; health insurance, housing and housing allowances, and well they even get a small bonus pay for every month you are apart. being apart is awful, but it makes the time that you have together that much more special.

my suggestion to you is to try and find a job with flexibility that you can transfer easily...there's gonna be alot of moving and uncertainty in your future. its something you just sort of learn to live with.
my wife is in navy, I'm civilian. I'm 23 so I might be Able to relate, I don't post in the forum, so If you have any questions personal message me.
My son is a Nuke and his wife was able to join him after A school. He had 8 weeks boot, then A school ( Feb to May) She joined him for power school and moved with him for Prototype. He is just finishing prototype and they are expecting their first child at the end of this month. Power school and prototype are tough because the sailor is spending anywhere from 10 - 14 hours a day in school. But the benefits will pay off.
My girl just left for bootcamp a couple of weeks ago. I been lonely all this time and made me realize i wanna marry her. weve been together for 5 years. So My plan is to propose to her after bootcamp , marry her and join with her. Any suggestions or advice please comment. Shes in the navy for air traffic

A PIR proposal sounds incredibly romantic.

 

If she says yes, I suggest planning a wedding at her A-school location. It's MUCH easier to arrange than trying to figure out how she would take leave. Beach weddings at Pensacola can be very beautiful and romantic. They are rather popular among sailors.

 

The Navy does not allow students to take leave to get married. If you do it at least a month before she gets orders for her permanant duty station, the Navy will move you there to be with her. If you wait until later, you have to pay the full cost of your move, and there are some places you may not be allowed to follow.

Arwen, I find about 95% of your response INCORRECT.

 

A PIR proposal? Yeah, cute. Planning a wedding at her A-school location? NO. Schedules change all the time, she could be sitting there for ever. In Pensacola, I had firm dates, school started on XXXX and ended XXXX, but had a lot of hurricanes...4 months of school turned into 6 months. The Navy does not allow students to take leave to get married?? NOT TRUE. I was in Pensacola for CTT "A" school, and my wife was in Corps school at Great Lakes. I took leave (3 day weekend) and got married up in Chicago (she was from there). The Navy actually said..."get married by this weekend, or you're going your separate ways," so we made it happen.  If your intentions is marrying another sailor, then you get BOTH detailers involved. They actually work together to ensure that you are stationed together (has to be within 50 miles), BUT you have to submit a co-location package. 

 

If you are considered joining, don't expect to leave next week. If you monitor the Navy Facebook page, you'll see lots of sailors that sign at MEPS and leave in an average of six months or so. By that time, your soon to be wife could be done with boot camp and maybe A school and on her way to the fleet, leaving you behind. 

 

Being a dual-military couple, being stationed together is NOT GUARANTEED. My wife and I have two kids and if things were to happen, our children would be sent to Illinois. 

 

The only thing you were really right about was "you may not be able to follow," places like Japan are really tough on junior sailors in terms of liberty. A lot of the Marines and Sailors love to commit crime there...

How long since you've been at P-Cola?  They really are not allowing the students to take leave over the long weekends, enough so no one has been advising counting on it these days. Get married in A school is what works for getting onto the orders.   Doesn't mean the new spouse should/can move there while the sailor is still in school.  The focus should be on the training. Great Lakes has been known to deny the Live Ashore requests of student sailors who went and got married over the holiday stand down. This is a recent development, and has not "spread" to the other schools yet.  But it could happen overnight.

The "may not be able to follow" is more than having to put up with strict liberty policies overseas.  No one E-3 or below is authorized to take dependents overseas, including Hawaii.  They can request a waiver, but those are rarely granted.  You should know what the cost of living is like there, a dependent who is not command sponsored might be able to survive in Hawaii, but it wouldn't be pretty.  They wouldn't be eligible for housing.  If it is Japan, not only is it crushingly expensive, but a dependent spouse without command sponsorship can't get more than a tourist visa.  That's a three month visit, tops. Italy is even worse.

Dual military is truly difficult.  The first two years we were married, we only managed to see each other a total of 28 days and we were both in Japan!  Just different ends of the country and he was on a ship.  He did manage to get shore duty in Yokosuka with me, but when my turn came for orders/2nd re-enlistment, the best they could offer was a one year extension then California.  No thanks, I decided being a dependent was more flexible.  The money had been terrific because we were both E-6, but not good enough to spend three more years apart. What made the situation so bad for us is we were senior, the same rate and practically identical NECs.  Just no  billets for us to fill.

Co-location isn't what it is cracked up to be.  50 miles? Ha. Try same general geographical location. 

The base housing decision depends on where you are.  I was raised in Navy housing, so I wasn't crazy about it.  We had a cute little house in Japan, liked our neighborhood, and had pets. The apartment we qualified for on base sucked in comparison.  I was sleeping on a futon on the floor and using kerosene heaters and it was still better than that "tower apartment".  That we didn't have kids was the tipping factor. Navy housing in San Diego is quite nice, but we had to wait for a year and once we settled into our rental condo, we had no reason to move.   As for traffic, he rode his Harley, no commuter worries there. Bad landlords?  That's why you don't jump on the first place and you have the lease with the military clauses written into it.   It is a balancing act, and each new base presents a unique situation for you.  For junior sailors, housing is often ideal for the reasons CBiz listed.  For me, it would have been hell.

Thanks for your help it gave me an better idea of how it works. Im hoping they do station us together. I yet have to speak to her recruiter and see what she tells me.

When choosing your potential rate, you will want one which will out you on the same type of bases as your wife.  Some combinations won't work, i.e. subs and aviation rates rarely get near each other.  You also do not want the exact same rate, as you both will be competing for billets.  While you should not let her choice decide your fate, yet you can make choices to optimize your chances of being stationed near each other.  

 

Also, while you both can be stationed on the same base, you can never be stationed at the same command.

I am a very fortunate retired Sailor who had the pleasure of having a spouse who made every move with me rather the Navy paid for it or not. You can go anywhere with your spouse you wish as long as your willing to sacrafice familiarity, comfort and/or money. Love see's obstacles, so go with her wherever she may travel.

One way you can look at this, is your wife is doing this to take  care of you BOTH. Because it is her decision and your wife, you gotta support her. If she leaves and you're all depressed, it's could hamper her focus in boot camp. My wife is in the Navy as well (as am I), and we have presented options that we both want where it didn't make us happy, but it's what is best for us in the long run. I'm a CTT, and had a classmate that brought his wife and they had an apartment out in town. It's something that I really wouldn't recommend though. Have her pick a rate that she WANTS, not on what keeps you together while she is in school. You don't want her to pick something that she will regret later.


My wife and I have been doing this for six years, so please feel free to contact me for any questions.

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