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Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

Specific information on this policy change will be provided in the coming days and weeks.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your support.

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RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 6/23/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED -  Vaccinations still required

**UPDATE 8/15/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS BACK IN EFFECT.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

**LIVE PIR's RESUMING 8/13/2021** 

***UPDATE - 8/15/2022** MASK MANDATE BACK IN EFFECT. Masks are required at PIR and to pick up tickets for PIR.

YOU MUST BE FULLY VACCINATED IN ORDER TO ATTEND PIR (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).

**UPDATE 4/26/2022 - Revised to 4 guests as of the May 6th, 2022 PIR.

 To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#contacting_recruits, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address against those at http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#contacting_recruits or Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at RTC Friends and Family Brochure October 2017. The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Proof of vaccination is required.

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by Chipmunk on June 28, 2020 at 8:46pm

Kaitlynsmom - Here is the link for Moms of Daughters 2

I believe this is the most active of the Moms of Daughter's groups that we have. They are a very caring and understanding group as well. 

There are many groups on this site, so if you need help locating a group for your SR's rating, A school, or other special interest and need help locating it, please do not hesitate to ask. 

For those of you with SR who are going to be Nukes, I left a message for you there  NUKE moms - If you have not joined yet please do so. Since their schooling is longer, there are some differences in what happens for them after BC than for others. Before the quarantine times, those who were going Nuke usually met with the career counselor around the 6 week mark and found out what their Nuke rating would be - MM, EM, or ET - so that is something else that you can ask about when you do receive a phone call or when writing to them. 

designmom - I saw your question on the main chat after you had signed off. If you need more information - B'sNukeMom has this posted in the Nuke Mom group, but I believe it should be visible to anyone that looks, if not, I can see if I can send it another way. For the rest of you - this is helpful information to know beforehand, in the event you would need to contact RedCross. I believe I am correct in stating that any emergency contact that needs to be made to your SR in BC must go through the RED Cross. Emergency Messages via Red Cross

Have a Good Evening everyone!

Comment by Chipmunk on June 28, 2020 at 8:05pm

Good evening Partyofseven!

Gigi - all the best for your sailor - There is no telling how they will handle things, best to wait until he arrives to let us know. 

Comment by Chipmunk on June 28, 2020 at 7:59pm

Good Evening everyone!! Glad to see the new members checking in and introducing yourselves. Welcome to all the others that are just reading along.

First - just an OPSEC reminder to all of our new members. Since this is an open public forum, we do not give the exact days of when your SRs battle station is to take place. The Navy treats BS-21 as ship movement and it is also training for us as our sailors move out into the fleet. 

After the fact, you may share and when Ellen0502 is able to get the July PIR group / s set up then you may ask questions in that private group about your sailor's BS-21. As for my experience, my "sailor" call came in the afternoon on a Wed and they had finished not long before that. And yes, they have to stay awake for xx amount of hours afterwards and they have already been awake so they are very tired and not thinking clearly. 

I was looking back through some previous messages in my email feed and Ellen0502 had commented that the phone bank time might be more limited or restricted due to the extra cleaning and disinfecting that is also taking place, so keep that in mind if you have not heard from your SR. 

The recruits also have to be learning to work as a team, following orders, and not talking. Different factors may go into whether or not a division is allowed to have phone privileges or not as well. It will be one of the things you can ask them when they do call.

Kaitlynsmom - I see belovedbyHim was able to respond and share her info with you. Three years ago today, I dropped my son off at the recruiter's office and then we were able to go to MEPS for his swearing in on 6/29 and he flew to GL on my husband's birthday!!  My mother had passed away earlier that year and my husband was at church (the night before) so I called my sister, who has a son and SIL in two other military branches. I just talked, she understood how hard it was to let my son go - but after MEPS  - we had an apartment to clean of my eldest daughter who had gotten married and lots of things to keep us busy for the summer. Staying busy for me, helped the most - and I would write emails every night because his smiling face was always there smiling back at me. Once I had his form letter and address, then I printed them back and front and mailed all of them. I did have PIR to look forward to, and I had four other children and another wedding to plan to keep me busy. I did not know about this site but I also had a dear church friend whose son was at that time active duty reserves and she asked me every week about my son, if I had his address yet and how I was doing. Knowing someone else knew what I was going through and understood - helped me a lot!

Comment by partyofseven on June 28, 2020 at 7:36pm

Welcome Kaitlynsmom, You have come to the right place. As belovedbyHim stated you will want to go over those important things with her. Mine only wanted to know if something had happened to me, his dad or brother. He didn't want to know anything else until after boot camp. So have that talk with her and see what she will want you to tell her if something happens.

My son and I also wrote each other a note not to be read until I really needed it and the same for him. He loved it and would read it often when he needed it. I also started writing him right away and numbered my letters so when I got my form letter I could mail them off.

We have more COVID moms on here than we did before so this new information that we get from them is always great and helpful as things seem to change at times depending on what's going on with COVID.

There is alot of information on here start reading and going thru the information and if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. No question is ever dumb and we are all here to help each other out. Again welcome and we can't wait to hear from you.

Anti M- Thank you I wasn't sure either about the calls. Hope your weekend was good.

belovedbyHim- Thank you for sharing and answering I didn't think so but I wasnt' sure since we are in COVID. Thanks again.  :)

Gigi- Oh no. Prayers for all of our Sailors on there. Hopefully when you hear from yours he might know more about what's going to happen. Keep us posted and stay strong.  :)

Comment by Anti M on June 28, 2020 at 6:10pm

I am not sure when the calls come, during the week, it is generally soon after.  Weekends are a toss up.  I can't recall Sunday calls being reported here.  But that never means impossible.  Things change is the one true thing.

Comment by Kaitlynsmom on June 28, 2020 at 6:03pm
belovedbyHim

Thank you for the info.
Comment by belovedbyHim on June 28, 2020 at 5:42pm

Kaitlynsmom-- Read my Blog. https://navyformoms.ning.com/profiles/blogs/boot-camp-first-weeks-t...
Talk about who she wants to know about if something happens at home (Hard but vital given COVID)
Call and leave voice mail messages , Sneak a note to her to be read at BC During the great silence! (Try and wait till you really NEED it!!) 
Know that it WILL be OK and we haven't lost a mom to BC yet, we won't start with you.!!

Comment by Kaitlynsmom on June 28, 2020 at 5:32pm
So I am just brand new on here. My daughter is leaving tomorrow morning 6/29 and shipping out from LA on 6/30 to Great Lakes. I’m going through every emotion possible today. Any word of advise from all you seasoned parents?
Comment by Northwoodsmom on June 28, 2020 at 5:28pm

Lovinlife, I'm in agreement with Gigi. My son also called in the morning after battle stations. He sounded exhausted, when I asked if he was headed to bed he said they couldn't until night. Didn't understand it but didn't question it.

Comment by Gigi on June 28, 2020 at 5:18pm

Lovinlife - got my I’M SAILOR CALL last Wednesday at 4pm Chicago time, his BS21 finished that morning. I think I’m newest mom here with fresh grad. He’s leaving tomorrow to GC Nuke school. But with this covid positive from ship 14 not sure how is he get affected

 
 
 

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