This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.
FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:
Choose your Username. For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either). Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username. While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!
Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!
Join groups! Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself! Start making friends that can last a lifetime.
Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak
All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018.
Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)
Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC
...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.
Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind. In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships." OPSEC is everyone's responsibility.
DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.
DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."
Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:
**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.
FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:
RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021
Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.
Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.
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To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!" To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"
This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)
Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it . You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!
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The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).
Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:
Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home
This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.
BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE
New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training
Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times
Are there any official RTC sites?
Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.
https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.
You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.
RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)
Can recruits take anything to BC with them?
Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes. (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)
What will the first day be like at BC?
See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.
How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?
See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.
I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?
Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at
RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works.
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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page. It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.
RTC Facebook Page - Graduation
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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?
The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT). The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.
The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets. ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**
UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)
The Expected timeline will look like this:
Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call
Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)
Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week)
Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training
Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).
Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.
Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA
Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.
Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created.
USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).
How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?
Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.
If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.
**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**
Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.) I'll post it in a few different places.
Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022
SARGE'S MEET & GREET - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022
Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.
Who can attend PIR?
RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021
Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.
ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.
GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions.
ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!
The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.
If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088
Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)
Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.
The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***
Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending.
Driving on to base.
Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.
See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.
What will happen PIR weekend?
See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend
http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.
S.O. Contract:
Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.
It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)
Interested:
Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.
(Click on the highlighted links.)
Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)
Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)
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Good Morning Ladies and welcome to all of our new moms,
You have come to the right place, there is a ton of support on here and we all volunteer our time here. Keep those phones on you at all times those ringers on loud and answer every call. You just never know.
It was great reading you guys posts yesterday.
Kim- Whoo Hoo for phone calls. I am so glad all your family was there and you were able to record the call. How awesome!! I'm so glad he is doing well and sounding great!! That was a great idea and nothing wrong with listening to the call more than once!!! Lol
Shanny- I hope your feeling a little better this morning.
VintageGal- That's right, you are in wedding planning mode. :) I will see what I can do about posting some pics. :)
Phoenixmom- How about those cards? Awesome game. Some of my teams won while others lost. :( Hope the pumpkin patch was good and that you had a great weekend.
Anti M- Good Morning.
LBF, DsMom2020, Chipmunk, Good Morning.
Kristel2400- Hope your day was great to yesterday.
C'sMoM2020- My other son was in marching band, with competitions and they made it to State a couple of times and it was awesome. The kids all worked hard and had a ball.
Northwoodsmom- Good Morning, I know you miss your kiddos, I do to. We will start hybrid mode next week if our numbers stay good.
Please stay safe and healthy out there as your numbers are high in your state. I have been praying for you.
My goal this weekend was to clean my yard and to get it ready for planting. Check. My other goal was to decorate for Halloween check. We worked hard yesterday on the front and back yards and they look great. It just felt awesome!!! lol
Finally heard from one of my Sailor's he is doing well and getting acclimated to his new base and ship. I was so thankful to hear from him.
My other Sailor is traveling today. Please pray for safe travels for him as he goes to his new base. Thanks in advance.
Another day closer to PIR. May letters and calls come in today.
Happy Monday!!!
We finally got a call Saturday morning and we all happened to be home and were able to speak with our SR as a family! He sounded amazing and we had such a sense of relief. Our daughter laid her phone next to the one he called so we were able to voice record almost the entire call so he could say hi to his grandparents and friends. We texted portions of the call to all of them. Was so thankful she thought of recording. We listened to it multiple times to remember everything he said LOL.
Good evening everyone! It was good to see you sharing today. I enjoyed reading your posts.
Ladies - thank you all for your encouraging words.
NWM and Vintage - my dad, military Chief Master Sargent, was very hard on my two oldest siblings. Not so much with #3 and me. The oldest two siblings struggled more in life and had self esteem issues. I know my dad meant well. I have the utmost respect for him. I do think every child responds differently, but too much discipline is not necessary a good thing. I hope your sons/brother find their way in life.
Kristel: Love the flag display. I'd love to get something like that.
DsMom: I've wondered if they made little Navy flags like that. I should get one since I just got one of those little flag holders for my birthday. And you really can't complain about your son losing that job when that is the reason! And he has such a great attitude about it.
Shanny: Really hope the headaches are easily fixed by a trip the the ophtholalogist. I easily get headaches/migraines. No fun!
I also had 4 band kids. We had two alto sax players (our SR was one of the sax players), one trumpet player, and our daughter played clarinet. Our older sax player went on to CMU (Central Michigan) in the saxophone studio there. He went on to be a band/music teacher. He taught for the first time last year and loved it. He taught at a private Christian school--elementary music, 5th grade band and choir, and M.S. band/choir. Unfortunately, just be Covid hit, he found out his hours were going to be reduced this year due to less tuition coming into the school. Then with Covid, and all the madates that came down in Michigan and county CDC mandates, there was no inside singing and no wind instruments. Michigan has a long, cold winter. So his hours got reduced even more and he didn't have any idea how to do lesson planning for all those months inside. He said you can only do so much music theory and music history. So he ended up resigning. The sad part is right now he's talking about possibly not getting back into teaching. But I'm trying to leave it in God's hands and know He has a better plan for my son. But all that to say--I really miss marching band and the competitions and the concert band.
Everyone: have a good Sunday afternoon!
LOL just noticed that husband translated to has been. Yikes!
Good Sunday afternoon ladies,
chipmunk it sounds like you had a nice Saturday afternoon. My son played the flute in middle school band and he loved it. My daughter played the clarinet and my youngest played the trumpet.
I got a lot of deep cleaning done yesterday, started finishing up my Charlie Brown pumpkin patch window display, and met up with my future daughter-in-law for the bridesmaid dress fittings. All the while thinking is the wedding going to happen as scheduled. But I’ve already told them of the unlikelihood so we’ll see. I’m going with the flow. Has been and I enjoyed a date night DQ run.
Shann - Hello Momma! Adventure seems to follow your son! I’m sorry to hear that you’re dealing with these headaches and the possibility of an MS flare up. I hope things get better. <3
kristel- The beautiful flag display! Wow! That’s hysterical about your dad. Sounds like something my dad would do LOL
partyofseven - sounds like you and I are very similar regarding our houses and holiday decorating :-) i’d love to see it!
Katharine- that’s great to hear about your communication with your SR! I’m trying to think of questions :-) oh wow your abundance of apples and treats for wine? hallelujah!
Dsmom- glad to hear of letters! I’m glad that in his heart he knows he did the right thing. Makes a mama proud! Sounds like he’s in a good place.
Welcome Melinda - you’ve come to the right place :-) we are here to support each other unconditionally. Don’t hesitate to share with us what you’re feeling. We’re here!
Northwoodsmom - that sounds like my childhood and my brothers. Love my dad but he took a little bit of what he dealt with as a child and raised my brother that way. My brother Is finally happy with the way things are going in his life - not to say it was my dad’s fault but you know what I mean. My sister and I could do no wrong.
Anti M - hello I hope you’re enjoying your day :) I agree, there’s a flag up the street that’s super tattered and needs to be laid to rest respectfully. It’s done it’s duty :)
blessedbyhim, Kim, C’smom and I hope I didn’t forget anyone - I hope you’re enjoying your Sunday afternoon :)
I know my girl phoenixmom is enjoying her football!!
Ladies a little smile for your Sunday. Our school went virtual last week. Alot of our students go to grandparents because their parents are working. Friday I got a call from one of those grandmas. She informed me that during feeding her grandson he made it known to her Miss( my name) would not be very happy with her, that her lunch was not up to my standards of being a nutritious meal. He is a little 3 rd grader. Just touched my heart so. I sure love those kiddos.
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