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Grad & Go Info

A place to ask questions or give answers to those who have recruits that are a G&G or who may be a G&G

Members: 144
Latest Activity: Aug 16, 2023

When I heard my son may be a Grad & Go, I had a ton of questions. The first one was: What the heck is a Grad & Go?? Now that I've experienced it, I wanted a place for N4M users to come and post questions and hopefully get some answers. Every recruits experience will be slightly different, but there are lots of "norms" that we can share with you that will answer a lot of questions. Remember, there are no stupid questions!

So, what is a G&G? It's a recruit that leaves boot camp before PIR weekend is over to travel to their A-School. They usually fly out on a Saturday, but occasionally on a Friday. This means a limited time to visit with them when you come out for their graduation. Some G&G's are just moving across the street because their A-School will be at GL (Great Lakes). If they are required to move over before PIR weekend ends, they are called a G&G. These two types of G&G's can be quite different, each with it's Pro's and Con's. If they have A-School in GL, but don't move over until after Sunday, they are not considered a G&G.

How do we plan our travel if we don't know? I can only share what others have shared with me. Most everyone made plans as if their recruit was not a G&G. That's what my family did too, and we loved our decision. We flew out Thursday, flew back late Sunday. We enjoyed our Sailor until he flew out Saturday afternoon, then we went and checked out the Chicago area on our own. If you are driving, it's a little easier to change hotel plans a few days before, but flight changes cost $$.

Can we meet them at the airport? YES! The Navy uses all three local airports (O'Hare, Midway and Milwaukee) to transport new sailors to their A-School city. You are allowed to meet your new sailor at the airport and visit with them there. You can even request a special pass from the ticket counter so you can go through security with your sailor and sit with them at the gate! "Most" airlines allow this and they do this free of charge for military families/friends, as long as you have an ID and if your sailor is there with you. You can have a lot of fun at an airport (great food too)!

What if they tell us they are on a Chartered Flight? The charter flights are cheaper for the Navy to use than commercial airlines, so they may be using them more and more. The cost of the flight is pre-determined by the exact weight of everyone and everything onboard. This includes the recruits' seabags. If the parents were to meet the recruits to hand off laptops and other items, now the weight of everything aboard has changed and that may not allowed. Because it's a chartered flight, obviously no one is allowed to go out to the plane to meet their recruits as the plane is not at a regular gate. I know it sucks for the families, but the transportation is all about cost efficiency and isn't concerned about families unable to meet the recruits. This made sound harsh, but the Navy is like other departments in the goverment and needs to keep costs down. New Sailors are not allowed leave and do not have to be granted liberty after bootcamp. Yes, it is customary to receive Liberty after bc, but just know that it's not a right, it's earned.

SEND YOUR RECRUIT THE G&G QUESTIONS POSTED IN THE DISCUSSION AREA TO THEM NOW SO YOU WILL KNOW THE INFORMATION BY PIR DAY!

Can we give them their cell phones? That depends. If you are meeting them at the airport (whether you pass security gate or stay in front lobby), then YES, you can give them cell phone, ipod and even their laptops (don't forget to pack all the chargers/cords!). As long as they can carry it onboard the plane, they can take and keep these items with them at A-School. They "check" their big 55lbs sea bags in with the airlines, so they have no carry on except their manilla envelope (their orders). If you had too much fun shopping at Gurnee Mills Mall that weekend, they are allowed to have a small backpack or gym style bag - but be sure it's a solid dark color (Black or Navy Blue), free from adornment if possible. If they are a G&G over to Great Lakes for A-School, they can have these items AFTER they are processed into that base. In other words, once they call you to pick them up after moving over, then you can give them their "toys". I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but it has been noted by many recent N4M members that those who are a G&G to Great Lakes ONLY, and that move over to A-School on that Friday right after PIR, only those families they are allowed to keep their new sailor with them all weekend. Once they have actually completed the move on Friday (takes 5-7 hrs), you can pick them up and have them overnight for the entire weekend!!! They may have to muster (roll call/check in) over the weekend, but otherwise they have liberty. There is NO OTHER situation that I am aware of that allows a new sailor to stay away overnight after PIR. Those who are G&G's that are flying out that weekend are NOT allowed to stay overnight with their family, they must go back to RTC (boot camp) that Friday night.

The HARD FAST RULE IS: Your new Sailors can't bring anything back with them to boot camp. They are considered to be in bc while they remain on the RTC (Recruit Training Command) side, even if they have already graduated. Handing them money or a debit/credit card is okay, because they are allowed to have their wallets at boot camp, but you can't give them their cell phones or anything else if they have to report back to boot camp that night. Wait until you see them at the airport!

Discussion Forum

Formal Navy Portraits - info, prices

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by lemonelephant Oct 28, 2013. 6 Replies

Here are the packages, prices and important things to know as of 8/26/10: Your recruits picture will be taken in their Navy Blue uniform and these are very nice, professional portraits.  No order…Continue

USO locations at local airports

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by MomOfFutureAM (Ship12Div387) Oct 2, 2013. 2 Replies

Only O'Hare (ORD) and Midway (MDW) have USO centers, the airport in Milwaukee (MKE) does not. The USO at O'Hare is located OUTSIDE of the secured area in Terminal 2 above the Delta Airlines Ticket…Continue

Phases of Liberty at A-School

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by MomOfFutureAM (Ship12Div387) Oct 2, 2013. 19 Replies

Liberty is different than Leave.  Leave is similiar to requesting time off for vacation at work, they must submit a chit and have it approved.  Liberty basically means that they have "liberty" to…Continue

G&G questions to send your recruit!

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by JessicaB-Sailor Mom Apr 14, 2011. 6 Replies

This was put together by gigi65 (thanks!).  These are the items you will want to mail to your recruit NOW so they can hand you the answers on PIR day.  They will not know the exact answers until 1-3…Continue

Grad and Go to A School at Great Lakes, Illinois right after P.I.R.

Started by chew92. Last reply by chew92 Jan 26, 2011. 3 Replies

After PIR 1/21/11 my son moved over to his A school at Great Lakes.  He was able to call me to pick him up after he was processed into his new quarters and I met him at the Visitors Center next to…Continue

PIR 09-02 - and GnG Lydias story...

Started by Lydia (For B - The Sea is Ours). Last reply by momofcurtis Sep 20, 2010. 3 Replies

Okay - My son is 818 Spec Ops was grad n go.... Here is how it went down... ****foot note on PIR**** - can you say TRAFFIC!!! geeze - I am sooo glad we took the rental car and not the shuttle... we…Continue

Chartered Flight, what to expect....

Started by Lala Ribbon Queen PIR Ribbons. Last reply by momofcurtis Sep 4, 2010. 34 Replies

I wanted to to try and help the families of those who are grad and go with a charted flight. This is a new area and I guess the Navy doesn't charter flights very often. In fact the nice man at the…Continue

Grad and Go

Started by bethe Aug 1, 2010. 0 Replies

Oh Lala, I feel your pain!  I cried when I read your posting because we went through the same thing!  My younger son and I walked all over that entire airport hoping to find my son.  Finally at 0700…Continue

Ratings & Ranks Info

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy Jul 28, 2010. 2 Replies

This was cut and pasted from the Navy's own site (see Hoppi's discussion on this groups page). The word "rate" is used in two ways within the structure. First, rate is a paygrade. Enlisted navy…Continue

CNN video on BS-21

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy Jul 8, 2010. 1 Reply

Trying to paste the CNN video about BS-21, hope this works! <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="…Continue

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Comment by Michimom (MM Nuke Mom) on July 18, 2010 at 11:07am
Does anyone know if the rule is once a Grad & Go, always a Grad & Go? My son had PIR scheduled for this Friday, 7/23, but due to a ruptured appendix a week ago, he will be recuperating and then finishing up with a new division. We don't know anything further than that and we know it depends on how quickly he gets back to where he was before physically.

Sure, we will wait to find out from him but, meanwhile, I'm wondering if he's more likely to be G&G later once he was scheduled for that in the first place. Of course, we're hoping to get the whole weekend, but I'm not holding my breath.
Comment by TheRightThing on July 18, 2010 at 10:12am
Sobe: Hope all is well!
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 17, 2010 at 11:51pm
Mississippi - thanks, me too. He had the largest Kidney Stones this doctor had seen in a long time, so they had to insert a stint and go through his bladder to blast the stones up (yes, stones - 5 of them). He feels 100% better, but is still very sore!

Hopeful in PC: If your son is truly a G&G to GL on PIR day, you are going to LOVE the perks from that! Please remember though, the Navy can change their mind any time - about him being a G&G AND about allowing them to stay gone overnight. So.... you'll hug him for about 15 minutes, then wait for his call about 6 hrs later - then he's yours til Sunday evening - very sweet!
Comment by Mississippimom on July 17, 2010 at 7:27pm
Sobe, so glad your hubby is ok.
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 17, 2010 at 12:28pm
Wolf - that's awesome! So sounds like she is not a G&G, so you get the whole weekend with her. She may have a few hours of duty, so be prepared to do some last minute "winging it" on any plans you guys have.
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 16, 2010 at 12:49pm
Hi ladies, sorry I've been offline for a few days - my husband had emergency surgery, but all is better now.

Jacqueline - thanks for the info about no laptops for Aircrew in Pensacola. In the intro on the top of this page, I try and remind everyone that each experience is different, but I really like hearing tips from seasoned moms. Worse case is that you end up taking it back home with you.

Stephanie: Your son graduates on 8/20? Sweet, only 5 weeks from today! Odds are they will get him plane tickets, I've not heard of anyone not leaving bootcamp because of that reason - but you never know! The more common reason is that there is no room for them at the base (A-school) they are going to, but that's not that common either! My son did not get his tickets until 2 days before PIR - this is all pretty standard. If you look above in the discussion area, you will see "G&G questions to send your recruit". Copy and paste the questions listed, print them out (or just write them down) and mail it to your recruit. Don't have him mail it back - tell him to write the info down the night before PIR and then hand it to you at PIR - that way you'll know exactly which airline he is flying out of and all the other details too. If he completes it too early, things can change (and usually do!).

jessica: Your husband will earn the different phases of liberty (there are 3). My son is also in Pensacola, but at Corry Station (smaller base a few miles away). Those at Corry Station tend to phase up to III faster than at other bases. I suggest reading the "Phases of Liberty at A-school" in the discussion above, then post any questions you have and we will help you out. Please remember, the answers above are the "norms", each base and each new sailors experience can be different.
Comment by jessica on July 16, 2010 at 10:10am
My husband is a GNG and his family has been asking me alot of questions because im the only one that has gotten to talk to him since he left but I don't want to ask him because he is always talking about our son who I had while he was away and with limited talk time on the phone I didn't want to bombard him with all the questions so im glad I found this group. well one of the questions is He will be going to A school in Pensacola well we live four in a half hours away and would love to be able to drive down there on the weekend to see him since we will only have one day to spend with him? does anyone know the rules when they reach A school? Can they leave base on the weekends i know if 'they have watch they cant..
Comment by Mississippimom on July 16, 2010 at 1:44am
Thanks Ladies for all the great tips and feedback on your experiences. This info is very helpful.
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 11, 2010 at 10:02pm
Thanks gigi65! I just cut and pasted your very quick, to the point questions to send to your recruit in a discussion above!
Comment by jdmom65(ship13 div 245) on July 11, 2010 at 9:49pm
Gigi 65 your the best. I will mail questions tomorrow. Mn Navy mom thanks for info. That was a big help. Gotta make sure car has a gps system
 

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