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Grad & Go Info

A place to ask questions or give answers to those who have recruits that are a G&G or who may be a G&G

Members: 144
Latest Activity: Aug 16, 2023

When I heard my son may be a Grad & Go, I had a ton of questions. The first one was: What the heck is a Grad & Go?? Now that I've experienced it, I wanted a place for N4M users to come and post questions and hopefully get some answers. Every recruits experience will be slightly different, but there are lots of "norms" that we can share with you that will answer a lot of questions. Remember, there are no stupid questions!

So, what is a G&G? It's a recruit that leaves boot camp before PIR weekend is over to travel to their A-School. They usually fly out on a Saturday, but occasionally on a Friday. This means a limited time to visit with them when you come out for their graduation. Some G&G's are just moving across the street because their A-School will be at GL (Great Lakes). If they are required to move over before PIR weekend ends, they are called a G&G. These two types of G&G's can be quite different, each with it's Pro's and Con's. If they have A-School in GL, but don't move over until after Sunday, they are not considered a G&G.

How do we plan our travel if we don't know? I can only share what others have shared with me. Most everyone made plans as if their recruit was not a G&G. That's what my family did too, and we loved our decision. We flew out Thursday, flew back late Sunday. We enjoyed our Sailor until he flew out Saturday afternoon, then we went and checked out the Chicago area on our own. If you are driving, it's a little easier to change hotel plans a few days before, but flight changes cost $$.

Can we meet them at the airport? YES! The Navy uses all three local airports (O'Hare, Midway and Milwaukee) to transport new sailors to their A-School city. You are allowed to meet your new sailor at the airport and visit with them there. You can even request a special pass from the ticket counter so you can go through security with your sailor and sit with them at the gate! "Most" airlines allow this and they do this free of charge for military families/friends, as long as you have an ID and if your sailor is there with you. You can have a lot of fun at an airport (great food too)!

What if they tell us they are on a Chartered Flight? The charter flights are cheaper for the Navy to use than commercial airlines, so they may be using them more and more. The cost of the flight is pre-determined by the exact weight of everyone and everything onboard. This includes the recruits' seabags. If the parents were to meet the recruits to hand off laptops and other items, now the weight of everything aboard has changed and that may not allowed. Because it's a chartered flight, obviously no one is allowed to go out to the plane to meet their recruits as the plane is not at a regular gate. I know it sucks for the families, but the transportation is all about cost efficiency and isn't concerned about families unable to meet the recruits. This made sound harsh, but the Navy is like other departments in the goverment and needs to keep costs down. New Sailors are not allowed leave and do not have to be granted liberty after bootcamp. Yes, it is customary to receive Liberty after bc, but just know that it's not a right, it's earned.

SEND YOUR RECRUIT THE G&G QUESTIONS POSTED IN THE DISCUSSION AREA TO THEM NOW SO YOU WILL KNOW THE INFORMATION BY PIR DAY!

Can we give them their cell phones? That depends. If you are meeting them at the airport (whether you pass security gate or stay in front lobby), then YES, you can give them cell phone, ipod and even their laptops (don't forget to pack all the chargers/cords!). As long as they can carry it onboard the plane, they can take and keep these items with them at A-School. They "check" their big 55lbs sea bags in with the airlines, so they have no carry on except their manilla envelope (their orders). If you had too much fun shopping at Gurnee Mills Mall that weekend, they are allowed to have a small backpack or gym style bag - but be sure it's a solid dark color (Black or Navy Blue), free from adornment if possible. If they are a G&G over to Great Lakes for A-School, they can have these items AFTER they are processed into that base. In other words, once they call you to pick them up after moving over, then you can give them their "toys". I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, but it has been noted by many recent N4M members that those who are a G&G to Great Lakes ONLY, and that move over to A-School on that Friday right after PIR, only those families they are allowed to keep their new sailor with them all weekend. Once they have actually completed the move on Friday (takes 5-7 hrs), you can pick them up and have them overnight for the entire weekend!!! They may have to muster (roll call/check in) over the weekend, but otherwise they have liberty. There is NO OTHER situation that I am aware of that allows a new sailor to stay away overnight after PIR. Those who are G&G's that are flying out that weekend are NOT allowed to stay overnight with their family, they must go back to RTC (boot camp) that Friday night.

The HARD FAST RULE IS: Your new Sailors can't bring anything back with them to boot camp. They are considered to be in bc while they remain on the RTC (Recruit Training Command) side, even if they have already graduated. Handing them money or a debit/credit card is okay, because they are allowed to have their wallets at boot camp, but you can't give them their cell phones or anything else if they have to report back to boot camp that night. Wait until you see them at the airport!

Discussion Forum

Formal Navy Portraits - info, prices

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by lemonelephant Oct 28, 2013. 6 Replies

Here are the packages, prices and important things to know as of 8/26/10: Your recruits picture will be taken in their Navy Blue uniform and these are very nice, professional portraits.  No order…Continue

USO locations at local airports

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by MomOfFutureAM (Ship12Div387) Oct 2, 2013. 2 Replies

Only O'Hare (ORD) and Midway (MDW) have USO centers, the airport in Milwaukee (MKE) does not. The USO at O'Hare is located OUTSIDE of the secured area in Terminal 2 above the Delta Airlines Ticket…Continue

Phases of Liberty at A-School

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by MomOfFutureAM (Ship12Div387) Oct 2, 2013. 19 Replies

Liberty is different than Leave.  Leave is similiar to requesting time off for vacation at work, they must submit a chit and have it approved.  Liberty basically means that they have "liberty" to…Continue

G&G questions to send your recruit!

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by JessicaB-Sailor Mom Apr 14, 2011. 6 Replies

This was put together by gigi65 (thanks!).  These are the items you will want to mail to your recruit NOW so they can hand you the answers on PIR day.  They will not know the exact answers until 1-3…Continue

Grad and Go to A School at Great Lakes, Illinois right after P.I.R.

Started by chew92. Last reply by chew92 Jan 26, 2011. 3 Replies

After PIR 1/21/11 my son moved over to his A school at Great Lakes.  He was able to call me to pick him up after he was processed into his new quarters and I met him at the Visitors Center next to…Continue

PIR 09-02 - and GnG Lydias story...

Started by Lydia (For B - The Sea is Ours). Last reply by momofcurtis Sep 20, 2010. 3 Replies

Okay - My son is 818 Spec Ops was grad n go.... Here is how it went down... ****foot note on PIR**** - can you say TRAFFIC!!! geeze - I am sooo glad we took the rental car and not the shuttle... we…Continue

Chartered Flight, what to expect....

Started by Lala Ribbon Queen PIR Ribbons. Last reply by momofcurtis Sep 4, 2010. 34 Replies

I wanted to to try and help the families of those who are grad and go with a charted flight. This is a new area and I guess the Navy doesn't charter flights very often. In fact the nice man at the…Continue

Grad and Go

Started by bethe Aug 1, 2010. 0 Replies

Oh Lala, I feel your pain!  I cried when I read your posting because we went through the same thing!  My younger son and I walked all over that entire airport hoping to find my son.  Finally at 0700…Continue

Ratings & Ranks Info

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy Jul 28, 2010. 2 Replies

This was cut and pasted from the Navy's own site (see Hoppi's discussion on this groups page). The word "rate" is used in two ways within the structure. First, rate is a paygrade. Enlisted navy…Continue

CNN video on BS-21

Started by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy. Last reply by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy Jul 8, 2010. 1 Reply

Trying to paste the CNN video about BS-21, hope this works! <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="…Continue

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Comment by Mn Navy Mom on July 11, 2010 at 9:15pm
Woo'sMom.....good luck to you and your daughter. My son needed his bright crawlers...sour type chewy candy...:) It is fun to be able to give them their special treats :)
Comment by rachelsmom on July 11, 2010 at 8:09pm
Sobe thank you for the great information. My daughter is going in as an undesignated airman that is why her A school is only 3 weeks. Just to learn the basics.
Comment by Woo'sMom (Donna) on July 11, 2010 at 1:55am
Mn Navy Mom ... thanks for the great information. My daughter will be a GNG (to Pensacola, btw) after PIR 8/6/10. I will be sure to pack her a back pack with her phone, and music player, her Sodoku puzzle book, and BEEF JERKY AND SUNFLOWER SEEDS!!!! (her favorites) I bet she misses those. Will take your advice, too, for NEX shopping LATER in the day. Congratulations on your new Sailor!
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 10, 2010 at 10:01pm
Thanks MN Navy Mom (Renee) - it really helps to get others experience on this site. I'm sure everyone is bored of reading mine! LOVE your tips! And you are the only one I've heard from that was told the bus left at 2am and it did. Lots of our sons/daughters were told 2am, but by PIR it changed to 5am.

Congratulations and get some sleep tonight - I bet you guys are exhausted. Aren't you glad you didn't fly home today? That's why I encourage people to stay until Sunday, even if their sailor flys out on Saturday. Enjoy Chicago - and being able to talk/text your son anytime you want to! Lisa (Sobe)
Comment by Mn Navy Mom on July 10, 2010 at 9:25pm
To all GNG mom's.....I promised that I would post things I learned to this site once I got through my son's graduation. Most of this has been posted before, but here goes...

My son graduated 7/9 and was GNG to Pensacola for A-Deck school. Graduation ended about 10:30 a.m. and liberty started. He had to go back to his ship to get pictures he had ordered and this is a nice time to spend time in the NEX waiting and buying souvenirs....:) Tip #1: However, an even better time is to come back a little early (he had to be back at his ship at 7:30 p.m., but since he was worried we would be late, we got there at 6:30) and then there are very few crowds.....We spent all afternoon doing things he wanted: out to eat, to the mall, went to movie (really liked this relaxation), down to Lake Michigan for a long walk and many pics, then to NEX outside of base, then back. Time went so fast.............

We had asked him to write down the airport, airline and time (like Sobe has stated), but he forgot the airline LOL so typical. Luckily, we were able to figure out through Google searching of departing planes that he would be flying out of Midway.

The new grads were woke up about midnight and were on the bus around 2 a.m.- plane was to leave at 6:35 a.m. We got up around 3 a.m. and met him at airport around 4:50 a.m Took us longer than we thought so tip #2: get up earlier to have more time.....:). My son did remember to wait and meet us by the ticket counter, we got our guest boarding passes and got through security with no problems.

Yes, we did bring his phone, I-pod, a book, and some snacks in a black backpack that he was able to take with him. Having his phone back brought a huge smile. Many recruits did not have and I think this is due in large part to not hearing that this is possible. Be prepared for the tears at the airport, but it is truly amazing to see the large group of sailors in their dress whites all over the airport...you will burst with pride. Any questions, let me know and I will try to answer.....Best of luck!!!!
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 10, 2010 at 8:55pm
Hoppi hopped right on that one! And yes, you ARE a fixture Hoppi and we sure appreciate it!

Sandy - there's a post within the last 24 hrs that discusses how to get cell phones, laptops, etc. to your new sailor who is staying in GL for A-School and is NOT a Grad & Go. Keep us posted when you find out if he is or isn't.
Comment by Sandy's_sailor son on July 10, 2010 at 8:42pm
Thank you Hoppi aka Angie. At least I know where my sailor son will be.
Comment by Sandy's_sailor son on July 10, 2010 at 8:18pm
Thanx Sobe. I appreciate your help.
Comment by SOBE,PIR 6/4/10 IT Mom, Italy on July 10, 2010 at 8:14pm
Sandy - I have no idea, but I know someone who might! I'll send her a message and post the answer when I get it. She works at Great Lakes A-school and is a fixture on the N4M site - helps us alot too. We don't always like her answers (the truth hurts sometimes), but at least we get the right ones! It may take her until Monday to answer me.
Comment by Sandy's_sailor son on July 10, 2010 at 5:32pm
Hello Sobe, My son Brenden said that he does not know if he is a Grad n Go. He is going to be an AECF. Do you know if "A" school for that is at Great Lakes?
 

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