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Comment by hapsmolmr on May 22, 2011 at 1:34pm

Does anyone here know how they decide roommates for A school?  Are they put together by rating?  Do the sailors get any imput?

Comment by mn linda (nuke MM ELT Groton CT) on May 22, 2011 at 12:51pm

we had sun first thing this morning, but starting thundering and raining again.  darn, I won't be able to get out and pull weeds.

Comment by Michimom (MM Nuke Mom) on May 22, 2011 at 12:47pm

You didn't chase me away.  It's just that we've finally had beautiful weather this weekend after rain, rain, rain.  Going to finally buy my annuals and some herbs and plant today!  :)

Comment by elizabeth77(USS SAN FRANCISCO) on May 22, 2011 at 10:59am

Hi swim4life...I think we may have chased everyone away by being political.  Just want to make one more statement before I leave politics on this site for good.  I am from California.  I see migrant workers especially from years ago as a whole different group from illegal aliens. OK, I'm still pondering on my dream car......

Comment by elizabeth77(USS SAN FRANCISCO) on May 21, 2011 at 1:18pm

Nevada Sierra...thanks for sharing.  I too don't want to get political but Cesar Chavez was a very important part of history and should be honored!  When we talk about how America is different I think about what Obama said recently about how we treated Osama's body with respect because we are different.  But when we think how we allowed people to treat migrant (and still do to some extent) it's sad.

Comment by NevadaSierra on May 21, 2011 at 1:03pm

Hi Everyone; I don't post often because our Nuke is on shore duty right now. However, a friend of mine posted this on the Northern California Mom's group, and I have her permission to share with you.

Comment by Paymaster 1 day ago

Ladies...I feel the need to share with you an e-mail I sent to my son today.  There is not call to arms or anything political in my note, I just wanted him to know why he should be proud.

 

Son…I read today that the Navy has chosen a name for the new Lewis and Clark ship, The Cesar Chavez.  I read that there is much controversy over the choice of names. 

When I was a young girl I often rode with my father during the summer’s when he drove truck for L & M produce.  He frequently delivered to the farm labor camps along the Sacramento river.  When I would ride with him I was never allow out of the truck when we went to the camps.  I remember when we would arrive at the labor camps we would have to enter through locked gates manned by guards.  In these camps were small shacks ( our dogs have better housing then these people had).  There was no electricity or running water to these shacks, they all had to share a common area in the open, often the restroom were nothing more than a water foist and outhouse.  The laborers were not free to leave whenever they wanted and they toiled numerous hours in the field, from sunrise to sunset.  They did not have drinkable water in the fields nor were they provide any facilities (no toilets) much less the chance to eat a lunch meal during the day in the shade. 

Whole families labored here, as soon as a child was able to pick they worked with their parents.  These children had very little chance for education as they never stayed in one place long enough to enroll in school much less having the opportunity to get to a school. On one trip to the Liberty Island farms my father’s truck broke down and I was allowed out of the truck and into the camp.  I remember sitting in the dining hall hoping I would find another child to play with, my father explain to me that children my age were already working with their parents in the field and I was lucky I was born in my family and I didn’t have to work in these conditions.  I remember it being very hot and rows of long tables and benches.  The windows shutters were open to let the air in, but there were no screens on the window so there were lots of fly’s.  When the dinner time came it was very late and it was getting dark. The workers came into this dining hall.  I remember that they scared me as they looked like walking died.  I remember being offered a meal.  Being a city girl I rather turned my noise up at what I was served.  My father chastised me and told me to eat what was put in front of me, that these people offered to share what little they got to eat with us and we should be thankful.  I think I manage to eat the tortilla as it was the only thing I recognized. I remember asking for butter and being told that was a luxury and to be quiet.

Cesar Chavez was a man that my father knew.  He always thought he was a bit to pious for him personally, as you need to remember your grandfather was a hard man and not a religious man.   

But my father admired Cesar for what he was trying to do for the labors.  My father never like going to the camps as he hated to see people be worked like modern slaves.  He always felt that the farm owners treated their dogs better than they did the laborers. 

Cesar wanted the laborers to be treated as people and not slave labor.  He wanted them to have decent hours.  He wanted the children of laborers to have a chance at being able to read and write. 

Cesar wanted these people to have the opportunity to worship in a church and not in the field at the altar provided on the back of a flat bed truck. I remember my father telling my mother how when he deliver to the camps that often the priest would travel to the camp and hold mass on the back of a truck during their break out on the road. He wanted to see people have decent working conditions (water and shade during rest breaks). He wanted to see that if they were sick they had the chance to go to the doctor rather than a women just try to work a miracle with her homemade remedies.

As I look back at this time when I was about 6 and 7 it seems such a long time ago. That these memories seem like dreams.  But they did take place.  Just as we all know freedom is not free.  That the rights we enjoy had to be hard fought and won. That individuals had to stand up and do what was right.  Just as Cesar Chavez did for the farm laborer.    

I guess what I am trying to tell you is that you should be proud of what Cesar Chavez stands for.  I know there are many other that will say different.  Just remember every time you eat a fruit or vegetable it was picked by a laborer.

Comment by elizabeth77(USS SAN FRANCISCO) on May 21, 2011 at 10:58am

A surprise would be nice but I highly doubt he will surprise me.  He is not really that type.  However he does like to tease me by telling me he failed this or that and then telling me the real truth.  Remember he was the one that called to tell me he was kicked out and then said he was just joking the night before April Fool's Day.

I am still working on that dream car.  The car I drive is a Honda CRV 2005.  That was right before they switched to that newer look.  I have it pinstriped and have some custom wheels and steps on it.  My partner is a car nut so for awhile there for my birthday and Christmas he was customizing it for me. Yes, that is where my son got the idea of a fishing rod for his girlfriend's birthday from, I'm sure.  Give her something you would appreciate.  I do like it though.  No one else's looks quite like it.

Comment by mn linda (nuke MM ELT Groton CT) on May 21, 2011 at 10:57am

Connie, did you ever post a pic of Fanny?  if so, I missed it.  I'm so glad she's doing great.

Comment by elizabeth77(USS SAN FRANCISCO) on May 21, 2011 at 10:49am

Hi Connie,You named your filly after my grandmother!  Oh she is sure to be fiesty.  My grandmother was a single mother after her husband died when my mom was 14.  She worked in Newark, NJ in the garment industry.  Drove a white corvair with red interior.  BTW I love your neck of the woods. I have relatives that owned a home in Perkasie for many years.

Comment by Connie foaling-lady (Groton) on May 21, 2011 at 10:12am

Dor, the orphan filly is doing GREAT! She loves her new adopted mom, good old Candywood, who is not producing milk but is loving and devoted. We are down to feeding milk replacer only 10 times a day and will start little Fanny on some milk pellets next week. Her big brother was just named New Jersey Champion Sprinter, so she has a lot to live up to!

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