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Comment by William in Nashua on February 10, 2013 at 4:31pm

AirForce/Navy Mom you mentioned that your son who was diagnosed with ADD had already been granted a waiver, and had enlisted as a nuke contract, was passed by MEPS, and made it to boot camp.  All the enlistees in Naval Nuclear Propulsion have to sign this form that becomes part of their enlistment contract.  It seems to apply to your son's situation.  Good luck whatever happens.

Nuclear Field Medical Statement Of Understanding

I am enlisting in the United States Navy for the Nuclear Field Program. I have been briefed on, and fully understand, the following:

- That I am either physically qualified, or have been granted a medical waiver, for the purpose of enlistment in the United States Navy.

- That the Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) that I am enlisting through does not have the staff or equipment to determine if I am physically qualified for the Nuclear Field Program.

- That I will receive another, more comprehensive medical screening and physical while at Recruit Training Command to determine my medical eligibility for the Nuclear Field Program.

- That the Recruit Training Command doctors and/or Bureau of Medicine and Surgery doctors may find a medical condition that disqualifies me from entering the Nuclear Field Program.

- That, if I am disqualified from the Nuclear Field Program, I will be reclassified into another rating or discharged from the United States Navy. The decision to reclassify me or discharge me from the United States Navy will be made by the Commanding Officer of Recruit Training Command or a designee on that staff.

Comment by wolfetal on February 10, 2013 at 1:16pm

Air Force/Navy Mom, I am wondering if your son leaves the Nuke program, are they giving him other options or is he simply out of the Navy?

Comment by Emily-aaronsgirl11 on February 10, 2013 at 3:12am

I know the topic of brothers/family members serving on the same ship has come up before here. This news article popped up in my inbox, and thought I would share. :)

Brothers Serve on Stennis

Comment by NAVY-em's_Mom on February 9, 2013 at 4:06pm

I finally got a phone call.  I had fallen asleep with the phone next to my head.  He got into Charleston airport at 6pm.  He said by the time he got assigned his room, he just laid down and went to sleep.  He was glad to be there, and said the weather was nice.  His roomate had been their since last weekend already.  He gave me an address to mail his cell phone to.  He sounded really happy and NOT destressed for the first time in a while.  He sounded like he was settling into Navy life.  So I ran down the street and mailed him his cell phone..>>YEAH

Comment by Koltsmom on February 9, 2013 at 2:47pm

z.s mom im at Ohara now with the nukes

Comment by NAVY-em's_Mom on February 9, 2013 at 12:01pm

Quick question.  My son was flying out of Chicago O'hare yesterday to Charleston/ Goose Creek.  (no PIR, since he had to retake the run).  He called us several times this week from GL to tell us that he had passed the run, then BS 21, and then that he would be flying out on Friday.  Well, it's Saturday morning and I haven't heard a word from him.  I'm starting to get worried, that he got stuck in airport somewhere because of the storm, or something else.  Is there payphone access at Goose Creek?  He doesn't have his CP yet....

Comment by William in Nashua on February 9, 2013 at 10:23am

Here is an excerpt from "Manual of the Medical Department, US Navy   NAVMED P-117" concerning health requirements.   Since ADD is not specifically named [and if is a different  diagnosis from ADHD], it seems like ADD is probably going to be disqualified.  Disclaimer, I am not a Navy psychiatrist Lol.

15-103 Nuclear Field Duty

Characteristics. Nuclear field duty involves work in the Naval Nuclear Propulsion and/or Nuclear Weapons programs. A very high degree of reliability, alertness, and good judgment is required in order for operations to be conducted safely and to maintain the integrity and accountability of these critical programs.

...

a) General. Any condition, combination of conditions, or treatment which may impair judgment or alertness, adversely affect reliability, or foster a perception of impairment is disqualifying.

...

d) Psychological and Cognitive. Psychological fitness for nuclear field duty must be carefully and continuously evaluated in all nuclear field personnel. It is imperative that individuals working in these programs have a very high degree of reliability, alertness, and good judgment. 

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(1) Delirium, dementia, amnestic and other cognitive disorders, mental disorders due to a general medical condition, schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders, mood disorders, anxiety disorders, somatoform disorders, factitious disorders,
dissociative disorders, eating disorders, and impulse control disorders not elsewhere classified are disqualifying.  

...

(2) Disorders usually first diagnosed in infancy, childhood, or adolescence, sleep disorders, and sexual and gender identity disorders are disqualifying if they interfere with safety and reliability or foster a perception of impairment.

(a) Current Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) is disqualifying, but a
history of ADHD greater than 1 year prior to military service is not disqualifying.

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(8) History of other mental disorders not listed above, which, in the opinion of the UMO or RAM, will interfere with or prevent satisfactory performance of nuclear field duty is disqualifying.

Comment by NAVY-em's_Mom on February 9, 2013 at 1:33am

From what I have come to understand through my son's experience, nuke waivers are very difficult to come by, and must go through a different chain of command, and higher up for approval.  I too was under the impression that ADD was not waiverable for the Nuke program, but was waiverable for going into the Navy. 

Comment by BunkerQB on February 9, 2013 at 1:15am

There is a difference between ADD and ADHD.  Some interesting comments on following discussion:

www.navyformoms.com/forum/topics/serious-concerns-about-my-son-s-en...

My personal opinion regarding on a sailor w prior ADD (or ADHD) operate a nuclear reactor is the same as Mark's. There may be a place in the Navy for these recruits but not as nukes.

Comment by Mark on February 9, 2013 at 12:02am

No offense intended to those so afflicted and their loved ones, but for the life of me, I can't see how anyone with a diagnosed history of ADD would be recruited as a nuc.  I mean seriously, how can attention deficit and operating a nuclear reactor NOT be considered fundamentally incompatible?  I just don't get some recruiters...

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