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Comment by LoriM on August 14, 2013 at 12:18pm

Sandra,,, it could be a couple of  weeks by the time all paper work is complete.. My daughter just came home last week... I will gladly answer any questions,, I had also post my cell in case anyone has questions they do not want to publicize 724 989 1239.  I know what you are going thorough and I will try to help as best as I can.  I can even ask my daughter questions and get answers straight from first hand experience. 

Comment by Sandra Washington on August 13, 2013 at 8:34pm

I know its hard for my daughter that is on Ship 05. She sounds better everytime I talk to her. Does anyone know how long they keep them in there? I was told 10 days.

Comment by Jo(Bre's mom) Ship 02, DIV 939 on July 30, 2013 at 5:49pm

Hello ship 5....I haven't been on here in a while. I pray all is well. O talked to my daughter last night. She will be home Monday Aug. 5th...4 days before her PIR date. I am so ready for her to be home! She went in to ship 5 on July 10th for hip injury and it had been a roller coaster! I can only say...for those of you with loved ones in ship 5 ..... my prayers are with you and especially your loved ones! Please make this a little easier on you by insisting on getting your loved ones to sign legal rights for you to obtain info and records...of course its not a guarantee you will get it...lol..but of does give you some leverage. Prayers!!!!! Hang in there!

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on July 25, 2013 at 7:28am

Liz'smom -  (PART 2) Researching your daughters "history" on here ...I see that she went to FIT , then RCU  and then eventually Ship 5. I believe it was the run that was a challenge, then stress fractures. But then your first post on Ship 5 mentions "PTSD" for the possible discharge reason.

You need to go to her DD214 and find out what the explanation is for her discharge. BOX 18 - REMARKS (Don't post them) , 23 - "Type" and 28 "narrative" hopefully can give some detail to the "erroneous".

Box 24 - Should have ELS (Entry Level Separation as it was less than 180 days of service). Box 25 - is the Separation Authority. Box 26  - SEP code (JFC). Box 27 - Reentry code (RE-3E). 

This is ONLY my personal research, not any definite answer...I am not Navy personnel. 

As far as the Recruiters "not working with her"...I have no clue. It may have to do with the specifics of her separation.  RE-3E for the Navy is "Ineligible to Reenlist Without a NAVCRUITCOM Waiver". So I don't know why they want a code change...again the nature of her discharge.

Hope that helps some.

(This is copied over from the BLOG post that you have...I also posted an additional comment over there :-))

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on July 25, 2013 at 7:21am

Liz'smom -I believe that the RE-3E code listed below is incorrect. (Sorry Abby!)

I have searched all over the internet and yes, that is what is coming up on a lot of "military" sites. However, you need to go to the Navy docs to get the right explanation of the Separation code and the RE (Reentry) code.

BUPERS - Bureau of Naval Personnel-has a BUPERS doc that explains how to fill out the DD214 (Discharge paperwork). It is 1900.8.

The BUPERS doc 1900.8c is listed on Ship 5 right under the Chart with all of the RE codes as well as the Separation codes. Here is the direct link BUPERS INSTRUCTION 1900.8C . (To get to the SEPS codes (that's the JFC) go to the Index on the left. Find ENCLOSURES. Go to "2" and then click "Enlisted".) (For the RE codes. Again ENCLOSURES and go to "3" and click "Reentry codes".)

Here is the Separation code and info that goes along with it.

JFC - ERRONEOUS ENTRY (OTHER)    1910-130 - is the MILPERSMAN AUTHORITY doc that describes the policy for separation due to erroneous enlistments. Read ALL of it but especially look at 2. Policy and 4. Not Meeting Physical Standards (since her struggle was with the run OR PTSD) Here is the link to that doc :  http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/190... RE-R1,RE-1,RE-3E,RE-4,RE-6,RE-8 (These are the RE codes that can be assigned to this Sep code)  Erroneously enlisted, reenlisted, extended, or was inducted into a Service component (not related to alcohol or drug abuse). [Explanation of the Sep code]

Here is the Reentry code listed for RE-3E:

RE-3E Inducted/Enlisted/Extended/Reenlisted in error. 

Here is the MARINE CORPS RE-3E code listed in the Marine Corps Separation and Retirement Manual.

RE-3E Failure to meet education standards. Assign when single disqualifying factor only.

 (AND the AF also has an RE-3E reentry code with it's own definition.)

After comparing the "standard" set of Reentry codes that I could find on the internet against the BUPERS one...there are discrepancies in wording and definition...plus omissions. Since the Navy CG and Marines are "lumped" together on many "military" sites.

I seriously would tend to go with the BUPERS one since it is the Bureau of Naval Personnel.

(Part 1 as it has too many characters :-/)

Comment by abbyblue on July 24, 2013 at 11:19pm

JFC   - Enlisted/reenlisted/extended/inducted in error/ Erroneous Enlistment  or Induction

                                    

RE-3E- Failure         to meet education prerequisites. Fully qualified for enlistment provided     education criteria is met. Erroneous induction.

Comment by diannep on July 24, 2013 at 4:51pm

Here's the other part of that link:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/l/blcode5.htm

Comment by diannep on July 24, 2013 at 4:49pm

Liz'smom:  Maybe this link will help?

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/blcode-2-3.htm

Comment by Steph Proud AG Mom on July 24, 2013 at 3:34pm

I need help.. my daughter wants to re enlist.. YEA! but- I can't seem to get a handle on what her code exactly means. so.. she got a jfc  re-3e, everything I have read says its for prerequisite education- ie high school.  but she was told by legal and her recruiters have said it's a medical sep code.. ugh!  How am I supposed to hand in the right information, without the right explanation of the code.  Her recruiters said for them to touch her, she needs a code change.. any suggestions?

Comment by Steph Proud AG Mom on July 19, 2013 at 12:31pm

Is there family here for a SR Desmond? My daughter met him while in seps, and a wonderful friendship is beginning...thought to introduce myself.

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