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Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on June 6, 2013 at 4:51pm

bigmomma - If I am reading it right...the second paragraph (from FAFSA) negates the first?

I mean he was a reservist "called to Active Duty" (BC-active status)) and "served one day".  

On the Military aid.com one.

FTS perform Active duty services for Reserves. They train and administer to the Reserve Units full time keeping up admin duties and making sure they are deployment ready (reservists still have to do a PFA two times a year like ACDU and keep up their medical and dental as well as schooling etc.) They receive the same pay, allowances and benefits as Active Duty.

I have been scouring the Net for "proof" that they are considered Active Duty. They get the benefits, time served =ACDU and such but they are technically attached to a RC (Reserve Component). They are reservist serving in a full-time capacity.

It's just hard to determine if the "afterword " of BC  "counts" (In other words that reservists are on Active Duty but are reservists) as far as FAFSA. Like was mentioned, you're going to have to talk with FAFSA and maybe gather some info to arm yourself with.

Here is the milpersman doc about FTS:
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/130...

Navy Personnel Command FTS Enlisted page:

http://www.public.navy.mil/BUPERS-NPC/CAREER/RESERVEPERSONNELMGMT/E...

That's all I could find as "hard" info and I am not sure they really help. :-( Sorry.

Comment by bigmomma on June 6, 2013 at 11:06am

Hey donnad and angie, thanks for your help!  Donna, the thing is on the FAFSA app we put independent veteran, but now the school is not agreeing with it.  This is the reason they are denying ind vet status:  

"A member of the Reserves who was called to active duty but who was discharged before serving on active duty (e.g., due to medical reasons) is not considered a veteran.

If a member of the armed forces was discharged during basic training for medical reasons, they are still considered a veteran for Federal student aid purposes so long as they served at least one day before being discharged."

Now I say, isn't the Reserves "armed forces" too?  

Military aid.com also says:  "Members of the National Guard or Reserves, however, are only considered to be veterans if they were called up to active Federal duty by presidential order for a purpose other than training. A member of the National Guard or Reserves who is called up to active State duty is not considered a veteran. A key issue is whether they were under the control of a regular component of the US Armed Forces or remained under the control of the National Guard or Reserves."

and I ask:  Since he was FT, wouldn't he have been a regular component of the armed forces?  

Ugh, we fall into a loophole where no man has gone before!  

Comment by donnad on June 6, 2013 at 7:04am

Hi, bigmomma - I think I would call someone in the US Dept of Education and not Navy Legal Affairs. I would think that eligibility for a Pell Grant is based solely upon results of FAFSA application.  My son was separated after just a few weeks' in BC due to a minor injury.  He will begin school in July, a 66 week culinary program.  Although he is still very disappointed he will not be a member of he US Navy, I admire how resilient he has been in picking himself up and moving on.  It's a tough situation for all, for sure.  Best of luck to you and your son!

Comment by bigmomma on June 5, 2013 at 5:06pm

Hi All, need some help.  My son was FTS naval reserves, but was injured in boot camp and being medically discharged.  I know he will have no bennies, but he should be eligible for independent veteran status for Pell Grant shouldn't he?  He's in an unusual situation I think, being labled as naval reserves, but FTS means he was on active duty; however, they are questioning it.  anyone know anything?  I might try and call Legal about it.  Thanks for your help!  God Bless

Comment by wfindley on June 5, 2013 at 3:44pm

My son came home about 3 weeks ago and he had a whole packet of stuff, including his discharge papers, medical writeups.  It was a big stack and the told him to make copies and keep in anoher place.

Comment by donnad on June 2, 2013 at 9:13am

lindakint so sorry to hear about your daughter.  My son came home just about midway through BC - the result of a minor injury.  No benefits, just the paycheck (which is almost nil because they take out for supplies, shoes, uniforms).  Not sure about medical records, as my son did not come home with his.  I would phone Legal Affairs yourself and ask this question, particularly since you will most likely want to take your daughter to a cardiologist and it would be nice to know what the Navy docs found.  I would advise all moms to call Navy Legal Affairs office - I did, his time on Ship 5 was cut in half.  From what I understand from my son, there is little care while in Separation - call Legal Affairs and try to get your daughter home as soon as you can.  God bless..

Comment by Tconn9298 on June 1, 2013 at 12:22pm

She will get to talk to legal they Actaully will do a briefing with her and and go over all the medical seperation discharge paperwork. I am not sure of how the process of getting records works. My son has been there almost two weeks and just met with legal yesterday.

Comment by lindakint on June 1, 2013 at 12:11pm

My daughter is receiving a medical discharge due to some issues with her heart.  What if any benefits will she be entitled to?  Will she be able to receive copies of her medical paperwork, etc.  Was she supposed to have the ability to talk to counsel before going to Legal?  Any comments would be helpful.

Comment by wfindley on May 29, 2013 at 12:47pm

To all, this is my final comment.  My son is back from separation, found a full time job, things were going good.  Just found out he has HepC, so has to go to doctors to see what can be done.  There is no way he will get back in the Navy.  For those whose kids are still in ship 5 tell them to hang in there.  For those who kids are our of ship 5  if they want to get back in the Navy go for it.  If not there is another whole world out there.  Good Bye!

Comment by diannep on May 22, 2013 at 7:19pm

It is always such a difficult time when they are separated in bootcamp.  Is his reason for separation one where he has a chance to re enlist in the future?  I know that it will feel so good to get your arms around him---he will sure treasure that hug....and hoping that getting back home with family will be good therapy for him for right now.  Please tell him that we all thank him for trying to serve his country...a very honorable decision.  I'm hoping that if his dream is meant to come true, he will be back at a future date.  Just saw a post recently from a lady whose son was finally back.  So it does happen sometimes!

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