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Comment by sara on January 19, 2015 at 10:33pm

Yes, but as an OT is in you to be proactive.  And yes, I see a lot with the diagnosis of oppositional defiance disorder and think to myself its no different than me and my mom when I was that age! LOL!! I know there a lot of issues with peds that are diagnosed correctly but I see everyday ones that are truly not and just a rebellious child or a parent that does not know the proper way to discipline.  Its like you want to do the right thing by having them checked but if you do something like this could happen,  Damned if you do and damned if you don't.  Just know that whatever the outcome it all happened for a reason.

Comment by xsubman on January 19, 2015 at 10:28pm

Hi just wanted to give a little incite it's been almost a year my son left for bc Feb of 2014 was adhd without waiver recruiter knew and told not to disclose was going to be an IT taken meds through school stopped after grad and been off over year even his doc thought he'd be fine and thought would be good for him before leaving navy recruiter knew this all before and why he was there less than probably 36hrs moment of truth he stood up and disclosed he adhd was immediately removed from company and sent to ship 5 for seps was seen over at reu for series of test doctor was willing to waiver but took meds after age 14 couldn't help him because he failed to disclose was sep'd with fraudulent enlistment re8 so I am guessing maybe why your SR was allowed to proceed with bc stopped meds under that age cut off if something came up on security background check that has happened to numerous kids and I know one even stayed and appealed spent over 3 months on ship 5 only to be denied similar situation adhd off meds prior no waiver and was sep'd some kids get caught up on security back ground check being performed for top secret jobs others moment of truth and have been few with waiver for adhd and navy still seps them also if you haven't on facebook and think it may be helpful there is ship 5 a closed group with allot more info files and parents who have all been through and can be very informative sorry for this having to happen things happen for a reason sometimes different path open up my son is doing pretty well figuring all that he went through with the navy and ship 5 he did not want to reapply after 6 months working and pursing a career in the fire service as I have been last almost 20 yrs and a navy veteran myself good luck my thought and  prayers to all of you

Comment by Hank'sMOM on January 19, 2015 at 10:17pm

I am an OT in home health....is that crazy or what?!  Trying to think back on our visits with that psychiatrist, she probably put ADHD and oppositional defiance disorder (I think there is lots of opposition and defiance with a boy at that age!!).  I don't know what else.  The psychiatrist that he had before that one never wanted to put down anything other than ADHD for the fact that it could stick with them forever.  Sounds like he was overrun with psychiatrists eoesn't it?  But it was only about a year worth of time, and the first one left the practice and he referred us elsewhere.

Comment by sara on January 19, 2015 at 10:02pm

Since all of this, I am actually scared and am going to talk to our hospital regarding this situation.  It could ruin a lot of hopes and dreams just by the diagnosis codes we enter.  Once the evaluation is complete it would say whether or not they actually thought the child is ADHD but that code never goes away and is never changed.  Its part of the record but yet the evaluation would say differently.  You might really want to check into that or have your son sign a release of authorization form and you would be able to get his records for that particular doctor. 

Comment by sara on January 19, 2015 at 9:56pm

Do you know what any of the diagnoses are?  That is true too.  If a child goes through a stage of hyperactivity and a mother wants to have it checked out the script would say to check for ADHD which could lead from one thing to another if the person entering things into the computer were not careful.  I work for a therapy department, PT, OT, ST we specialize in pediatric OT.  Even when the patient is not ADHD when we put in into the computer to register we have to put the ADHD code in even if they find the child is not. 

Comment by Hank'sMOM on January 19, 2015 at 9:49pm

Well, I've got the day off Wednesday to be available.  I am going to call all day tomorrow to get my questions answered including whether I wll get to speak with someone on Wednesday.  I hope he does not get an RE4 either, but I am worried about these "multiple diagnoses"???  I wish I could drive to this psychiatrist and the get the records, but I would need hs signature!!  I am proud of him for saying a one point he wants to fight and at another point he is looking at his options.  I cannot change anything, so I just have to wait, accept, and move on!

Comment by sara on January 19, 2015 at 9:36pm

Hanks mom,

I never actually got to speak with legal after their meeting.... She said he was going to call me the next morning but he never did.  I tried and tried even left messages but he never got back to me........   She told me she signed the waiver for them to talk to me too.  Im hoping your son does not get an RE4.  He has gone too far and deserves this.  Just remember whatever is meant to be will be.  Its for a reason.  Hang in there : )  Its pretty good he is already making plans if this doesn't work out. 

Comment by Hank'sMOM on January 19, 2015 at 8:45pm

Talked a few minutes to my son yesterday.  He wanted to make sure that I had gotten our airline tickets taken care of (got a paper travel voucher good for the amount for 1 year), wanted his girlfriend's phone number since he was at recruit heaven, wanted the application for the community college he is interested in attending for an Associate in Fine Arts in Drama, and wanted all the NFL play off scores sent to him.  He sounded better, and told us he is still thinking about fighting.  Now, I am worried about what code he will be given!  I have some questions for Legal about the whole process, and am going to call tomorrow to get the answers.  I want to be fully informed and ready for the call after his meeting with Legal on Wednesday.  Still can't believe this is happening.  How can it be that he does fine at Boot Camp and gets sent out for a "diagnosis-happy" psychiatrist he saw at age 12.  He also had records from a counselor and another psychiatrist that did not disqualify him!!  I think about it every minute of everyday....even dream about it at night (or should I say have nightmares!).

As hard as it is, we have to try our best to be positive and supportive (even if we want to scream!).  I'm sending positive vibes your way.

Comment by sara on January 19, 2015 at 8:17pm

Hi Hanksmom,

Im doing good today.  Her from my daughter today and she is sounding much better day by day.  How are you and how is your son?  Did you make any decisions yet? 

Hi LoriM.

Your daugther's story is amazing.  Good for her!!! Unfortunately with my daughters code she will not be able to ever re-enlist.  At this point I know she is okay with it, I just hope it doesn't bother her down the road. 

Comment by Nicole on January 19, 2015 at 7:54pm

Hank's mom,

  just waiting for my son to see the doctor tomorrow. He has called several times from the hospital and has had a few friends call him there. He is always more upbeat talking to his friends, but his emotions show a lot more when he speaks to me. He is just anxious to get the process going and not prolong his wait. So time is moving slowly , I  just keep giving him positive input and prayers. How are things for you?

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