Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    This is a regular reminder regarding the number of guests allowed at the graduation ceremony.
    GRADUATION CEREMONY SPACE LIMITATIONS: Recruit Training Command will issue FOUR tickets for the graduation ceremony, per recruit. The maximum number of allowed guests is based on safety regulations and the fire code for the drill hall, where the indoor ceremony takes place. Again, recruits are permitted to invite up to FOUR guests to graduation, (THREE guests when 11 or more divisions are graduating,) NO EXCEPTIONS WILL BE AUTHORIZED for additional guests. Please do not call for additional seats!
    ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail well in advance. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call to verify receipt of security forms, only your recruit can verify that.
    This information is posted on our website at www.bootcamp.navy.mil under the Graduation tab. The listing of graduation dates and the number of guests allowed for each training group may be found at https://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/tg_grad_dates.html
  • belovedbyHim

    lapdja-- He is the FIRST training group of the New year if he's Div 001.
    Yes get the security form from the links that B's posted and send that in.  Only you can decide if the cost is worth it. 
    You may want to let him know that you really appreciate now the random texts that used to bug you. All those Mom, Ma, Momma, Mommy, Mum, MAMA.....texts that asked nothing but spoke volumes.  Hang in there.... He's being fed, dressed and sheltered and he'll be just fine!! We are here if you find yourself adrift and just need to hold onto something stable for a bit.  Only 9 weeks left.

  • Northwoodsmom

    lapdja, I miss my son's " hi mom too"  I had him record it on my phone when I am missing him. Those two little words mean the world to me. Hang in there, stay busy, it seems a long time but it truly isn't. Thinking of all of you.

  • Rosanne

    Tootie - Hooray for your phone call!  So glad you got to hear his voice! :)

  • Rosanne

    lapdja - hang in there. Just keep sending letters and notes. You'll cherish that first letter from him all that much more!

  • Chipmunk

    Good Morning Everyone!!

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

     PIR DECEMBER 2022

    PIR NOVEMBER 2022

    PIR OCTOBER 2022

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    From the RTC Website (October 2022):

    Sandboxx Information

    Recruit Training Command (RTC) allows recruits and their families to regularly communicate. All RTC families will receive the recruit’s mailing address and information about graduation. The general information is also on our website www.bootcamp.navy.mil located under the “Graduation” tab.

    Recruits may regularly receive letters from families via USPS or other mailing services. Another alternative is communication through a private company, Sandboxx. Should your recruit opt-in to the Sandboxx service, you will receive a text message and/or email with a link to create a profile. Once you create a profile, you will have expedited access to their mailing address, division number, and graduation date, in addition to recurring updates about what your recruit is experiencing during training. The information is FREE to access once you have registered.

    Sandboxx is not affiliated with, or endorsed by, the Navy or Department of Defense.

    Use of Sandboxx services is at the discretion of Navy recruits and their families.

    Q & A
    Is it required to use Sandboxx to receive my recruits’ information?
    No. If your recruit decides to opt-in to the service and you receive a notification, you are not required to click the link. However, your recruit will not be aware that you did not electronically receive their address, which means you will have to wait for your recruit to write you a letter with their return address. This will further delay the process in you receiving important information regarding your recruit’s contact information and graduation status.

    Can I get my recruits’ information electronically without signing up for Sandboxx?
    No. You will have to wait to receive the information in the mail if you choose not to follow the link you received and create a profile.

    How can I find out more information regarding my recruit and their time training at RTC?
    Please visit our website at www.bootcamp.navy.mil for the most up to date information. You will find the best ways to contact us should you have specific questions.

    Can RTC answer specific questions for me regarding Sandboxx?
    No. Please contact Sandboxx directly if you have any specific questions about the service they provide.

    When will my recruit start receiving mail?
    Recruits get mail as soon as it is received. Do NOT send your recruit mail before having their full mailing address. A full mailing address includes ship and division number. You do not have to wait a specific number of days or weeks before sending your recruit mail, so long as you have their full address.
  • JNMnavymomOH

    I thought I would get to report tonight that I would be going to PIR this week.  My son called a few hours ago to say he is being set back again.  His time was worse this week than last week, or so he believes.  My heart keeps breaking.  His frustration and disappointment is mounting.

  • Chipmunk

    Oh JNMnavymomOH - I am so sorry to hear this!!! 

  • CBMom

    JNMnavymom - I’m so sorry to hear this. I know how hard he’s worked. A friend of mine, her daughter, could not pass and was there about 6 months. She worked at it and she finally passed. As long as he keeps trying they will help him to pass. I’m so sorry it’s taking so long. My heart goes out to you both. Will continue in my prayers. 

  • Northwoodsmom

    JNMnavymom, my heart hurts for you and your son. I keep telling myself it's in God's timing and there is a reason for this. The Navy isn't giving up on him so they see something very special in this young man.  I am sure you are extremely proud in how he is persevering and not giving up. I sure would love to meet this incredible young man who keeps going and is so set on making this sacrifice to serve his country. He totally amazes me. I am definitely keeping him in my prayers. 

  • Tootie

    JNMnavymom - My heart is breaking for your son and for you. I'm continuing to pray for you both.

  • MomofJoseph

    JNMnavymom - Big big hugs to you!  I am praying for you and for your son often.  I know that good news is coming.  I agree with Northwoodsmom that your son is amazing in his perseverence, and YOU are amazing in all of this, too.  I will keep praying.  BNMH to you from all of us!  <3

  • Rosanne

    JNMnavymom - continued prayers for you and your son.

  • Junebugg

    Prayers for you and your son. My son was ASMO'd 3 weeks. Hopefully he will be graduating 10-28. 

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    JNMnavymom - remember, it's just a setback.  He can do this, stay positive and keep encouraging him.  The victory will be that much sweeter.  He's got this!

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

     PIR DECEMBER 2022

    PIR NOVEMBER 2022

    PIR OCTOBER 2022

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  • 0914mel

    JNMnavymom-Keep your head up, I can't even imagine your worry and that of your son but my thoughts and prayers are being sent out to you both. BIG HUGS!!!

  • tammybikerunfaithlove

    JNMnavymom I've been thinking of you and your son daily. I'm so sorry he's been set back again. I'm in such agreement with what others have said - and I would remind him of this - They are working with him for a reason! He clearly is showing them some outstanding qualities beyond the run that are wanting them to continue to invest in him and work with him. His perserverence is admirable. I hope that he can use his frustration and turn it into good energy to continue to prove to the Navy that he will make one heck of a sailor!  Everything in God's timing and with His perfect puprose and plan- even if it doesn't feel that way to us.  I will continue to pray for him and for you. BNMHs!!!! 

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Today we remember those who lost their lives on the USS Cole.  It is because of this that we now have BS21 training in boot camp.

    (Click on the picture to enlarge and read the names.)

  • JNMnavymomOH

    There just are not enough words to say my appreciation for your continued encouragement and prayers.  He called me twice today to provide 2 different Divisions.  As he has already completed and passed BS21, he can not be set back to a division that has not yet passed it.  I have reiterated to him that I am so proud of him for his strength and perseverance, his drive and willingness to push himself.  I know he worries that the next time could be the one where they send him home.  I have told him that he is inspiring (to me and others) and to continue to fight for this.  I am emotionally drained, I won't lie.  This waiting until the last minute for changes is hard.  Both with work and travel.  And yet he goes from Div to Div, that has to be lonely.  He is kind of a loner anyways, but this is a whole new level.  I told him today that I wanted to go back on vacation with him.  He said me too.  I said, wait, you wanna go hang out with your mom?   His response:  It's better than being bored in here.  Warms the heart to hear that he misses me.  I am continuing to pray for peace and comfort and strength of determination like his.  

  • belovedbyHim

    JNMnavymomOH --- I am heartbroken for you both.  I have to give him a great deal of credit though for sticking with it.  A lesser person would have given up.  It shows his character and strength that he's keeping with it!

  • Chipmunk

    B'sNukeMom - Thank you for the In Memoriam reminder. As I travel and visit different places, I am more aware of the memorials that are housed across this country, honoring our military, especially those who have died in service. 

    JNMnavymomOH - BNMHs!!! Continued prayers for your son and you. May he be strengthened in mind, body, and spirit. 

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

     PIR DECEMBER 2022

    PIR NOVEMBER 2022

    PIR OCTOBER 2022

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    REMINDER FROM THE US NAVY RECRUIT TRAINING COMMAND FACEBOOK PAGE:

    Everyone who is planning on attending a graduation ceremony MUST personally obtain a ticket, which will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center the week of your recruit's graduation. Tickets are free of charge, but you must have valid photo ID to obtain your ticket (driver's license, state ID, military ID, passport, or, for minors, a student ID, driver's permit, SSN card, birth certificate,) AND you MUST also have your COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card.

    WELCOME CENTER ADDRESS/GPS: Navy Exchange (NEX) Burkey Mall, 2650 Green Bay Road North Chicago, IL 60088 (Do NOT use generic terms such as NEX, Recruit Training Command or Naval Station Great Lakes).

    RECRUIT FAMILY WELCOME CENTER HOURS:
    Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM] and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:30 AM]

    For the graduation ceremony, the direct address to Gate 8 at Ohio Street and Buckley Road, across from the Metra train station is: 11025 Downey Road, North Chicago, Illinois 60064.

    All information may be found on our website at www.bootcamp.navy.mil under the Graduation tab.

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    *** COVID PROTOCOLS ***
    Recruit Training Command continues to operate in a COVID environment in order to protect the safety of both trainees and staff while meeting mission demands. This policy is subject to change as leadership continues to monitor the spread and impact of the Coronavirus. Therefore, the following protocols are in place:

    • Guests 12 or older need to provide proof of IMMUNIZATION (14 DAYS POST FINAL DOSE,) in the form of a covid-19 vaccination record card to attend. If you are unable to provide proof of vaccination, you will NOT be able to attend, and will NOT be issued tickets to attend. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS.
    • To ensure the health and safety of all, every person attending is required to observe social distancing protocols while inside all RTC facilities and throughout graduation ceremonies inside midway ceremonial drill hall. REMINDER: Policies regarding the graduation ceremony can change at any time due to changes in our health protection status and policy. Please travel with a mask in case the requirement to wear one while attending the graduation ceremony is implemented. For those unable to attend we invite you to watch the ceremony online from home. Please continue to follow RTC social media accounts for updates and check www.bootcamp.navy.mil for the most up-to-date information. For specific questions and inquiries, contact the RTC Public Affairs Office at rtc.pao@navy.mil.
    • Each sailor is allowed a maximum of FOUR GUESTS, (THREE GUESTS when 11 or more divisions are graduating,) on base for the graduation ceremony. No exceptions, and children 2 & under do not count toward the guest limit.
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  • Chipmunk

    Good Evening Everyone!! Join me in welcoming Patti to our group. She has a discussion posted in the general area, Graduation Gift Ideas  asking about graduation gifts. You might want to share some of your thoughts with her, or follow the link that B'sNukeMom has posted to information about gift ideas. 

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Good Morning and Happy Friday!  Here's the link to today's PIR happening right now:

    LIVE PIR OCT 14, 2022

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    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

     PIR DECEMBER 2022

    PIR NOVEMBER 2022

    PIR OCTOBER 2022

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  • Melissa

    Happy Saturday, Moms!

    Looking for hotel advice... we are 5 (6 with my SR) and will need adjoining rooms. Can anyone suggest a place that can take a big group? Also, 2 of my teenage sons will have to stay behind since we only have 2 tickets. Will the hotel live stream the PIR? Thank you all! 

  • Chipmunk

    Hi Melissa, 

    Be sure to check out some of this information that we have on this group page - PIR Weekend Experiences - Post Covid - Navy For Moms (ning.com) (this discussion is recent with some of the moms sharing their experiences, or read through past posts.) 

    These are from the pages in the upper right of this group page. Be sure to scroll all the way through the information for motel comments. - Saving Money PIR Weekend - Navy For Moms (ning.com)  & PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend - Navy For Moms (ning.com)  (be sure to scroll through and read information there as well, the first part may need to be updated but there is a lot of good stuff still here.)

    As far as a large group, you might need to look into suites, or call the motels. When my son went 5 years ago, they sent us a brochure with the form letter of motels in the area. I do not know if they are still doing that or not. But calling, or doing Google searches also work. - Springhill Suites gets recommended a lot, I think there is a link is the info.

    You may also check with the Navy Lodge Navy Lodge Great Lakes: Navy and Military PCS Housing, Great Lakes,...

    As far as living streaming in the motel, you will need to ask about that. But RTC does live stream, so make sure the motel offers free WiFi or it can be watched on the replay. 

    The RTC website has a host of information on it, and the link for the live stream is in the yellow banner on this page - Recruit Training Command Home Page (navy.mil)

    Your sailor will only be able to possibly spend the night with you, if he is staying GL for A school. If he is flying out to his A school, you might want to read this discussion of mine, scroll through the pages for updates - What PIR weekend may be like for those flying out of GL - Navy For ...

    Finally, don't forget to read through the information above the discussion area as well.  All the best to your SR!!

  • Rosanne

    Welcome Patti!

    Hi Melissa - You should actually get 3 or 4 tickets now depending on the number of Divisions in you in our SRs graduating class. We booked The Navy Lodge (PIR 11/23/22).  We didn't get a suite, but I have heard they have them. I have also heard good things about Springhill Suites by Marriott and Sonesta ES. Some hotels do livestream, several restaurant's apparently do too.  It's also livestreamed on YouTube.  Maybe bring a laptop?  Hope this helps!

  • Trey

    I wanted to mention/second about bringing a laptop.. with the right hdmi cable you can hook your laptop to the tv in the room and watch PIR that way if they don't stream it elsewhere. Free wifi is a standard now I think.. or should be.

  • Chipmunk

    Good Morning Everyone!! 

    It seems that the cold wind of winter is coming to most of us. I am thankful for sunshine! 

    Trey - that is a good point about the HDMI cable!! We got stuck on a spring break vacation with a late snow fall. The amusement park which had just opened for the season, closed early and we were stuck in a motel room. My husband's laptop could play a rental DVD, but we had to buy an HDMI cable so we could hook it to the TV screen. 

    Rosanne - hopefully you will get a little extra time with your sailor after PIR!

  • Melissa

    Thanks everyone! I'll make some calls today for hotels.

    Another question... My SR will be going to school in Pensacola after PIR. Since he graduates on a Thursday bc of the holiday, any ideas of how much time he could get with liberty? Thanks!

    Also, thank you for the HDMI cable idea for my other kids at the hotel!

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Be sure to join your PIR group.  Here are the links:

     PIR DECEMBER 2022

    PIR NOVEMBER 2022

    PIR OCTOBER 2022

  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Here's a video posted online (6/13/22) that shows the 10 weeks of boot camp:

    What US Navy Recruits Go Through

    And if you are interested in seeing what happens during the "Confidence Chamber" aka gas chamber here is a video link:

    Boot Camp Gas Chamber

  • Melissa

    Me again... would you recommend rental car or shuttle/Sarge taxi?

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  • B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet)

    Melissa - we used Sarge back in 2012 - no car rental and we were there from Wednesday night to Sunday.  I definitely recommend Sarge.

  • Rosanne

    Melissa - Good luck!

    Chipmunk - She's staying in Great Lakes for A School, so from what I understand we will! :)