NUKE moms

Can anyone help out  Myliajre she posted this in the general discussion area for the site - Sept 30 Prototype Graduation

I am not certain of all the new details for Prototype Graduation, if someone can post a reply to her and send us an update that would be great!

Q’s Momma - that picture message/address was for you. And yes you can send him care package. I remember my son the very first day he arrived at GC he asked for contour boxer shorts and his laptop as his very first request from home. Good luck to your sailor and welcome to this group. I don’t post much but im still around. Have a great evening all :) 

Q’s Momma - INDOC waiting period before A school could be from 2weeks to over a month depends on how soon they can make a class. My son’s rate is ETN, very few of them compare to other rate. BTW - this is how i addressed  my son not FN or SN (depends on rate)  ETN last name, first name. What’s your son’s rate? 

Q's Momma - I have a little bit of info since my son is in T-Track now (and about to start Power School).  Letters should be addressed to "SN Last Name, First Name" at INDOC.  When he classes up, you will get a new address (but everything is the same except that INDOC is replaced with his Class (e.g. 2215-B, or something like that).)  Once they graduate "A" school, they get promoted and you can address their mail "ETN3 Last Name, First Name" but then their address changes again because their class number is replaced with "T-Track". 

Not sure what's going to happen when my son classes up for power school, but I expect I'm going to have a new address to remember.  :-)

Q's Momma - Good to see you posting here. I trust you all made it back home just fine. Be sure to read my discussion above, - Nuke A school daily schedule - sailor's perspective - Navy For Moms... - it will explain some of the lingo. And yes, he should be addressed as SN Last Name, First Name as MomofJoseph shared. 

Gigi - Thanks for posting, I was away for the evening. 

MomofJoseph - I don't recall, but PS had a similar class # as when they were in A school. 

Q's Momma - be sure to ship most items via UPS in the the Priority flat rate mailboxes. "If it fits, it ships". Check with your post office, you may also have the boxes delivered to your house as, well, I think. I believe Priority Mail comes with up to $100.00 insurance but buy more if you need to. It also comes with a tracking #. Be sure to give your sailor that tracking # and go in and also tell it to alert with Text messages (you may send to more than one), when it has been delivered. Your sailor will receive a slip of paper from their Mail Petty officer for their class and he will be able to pick it up from the mail room at NNPTC. I believe they are open 9 - 5 M-F and 9 - 12 noon on Saturday. 

Q's Momma - That is great!! My son was INDOC for a month before his ET class started. 

Assuming they let the sailors travel again, which I believe they are from NNPTC - as I recall at Thanksgiving, they had Thursday and Friday off, but my son was back in at least on Sunday to study. I share the study time information in my discussion above.  That was not even enough time for my son to feel like he could fly to the Midwest and back and it be worth it for him. The first year, he was invited over to one of his fellow classmate's houses, his 2nd year in Prototype, he went to one of the instructors' homes, I think, and they had a large gathering of sailors. 

As for Christmas - this is how it was in 2017 with mine. Things change. You either took the full two weeks of Holiday stand down time as leave, or you stayed behind and stood watch. If they do not have enough leave time built up, they may borrow leave. It is best to take leave when you have a reasonable opportunity to do so, as it is not always feasible at other times, especially when they are in school. 

That is the basics - if you want more details, you might need to wait until your son has more instruction from his SLPO.

My sailor's recommendations are: make sure the sailors continue to do their pushups, planks and run.  Make sure they get their UI (under instruction), training done for being able to stand watches. This must be done before they complete A school. 

Q's Momma, just make he takes the time when he gets it. My son with his big ole heart stayed and did watch so others could come home, it's been almost 3 years now and he has not been home. He said Mom there are guys that have been home for 2 years so I decided to stay so they can go see their families. Silly boy, had to remind him in two weeks it will be 2 years since you've been home also. He didn't even realize he had been there that because how busy they keep them.  Prayers you see yours soon.

Holidays are always tricky.  B left in October 2012 for the Navy.  He's out now but last Thanksgiving (2021) was the first time since 2011 that we spent a Thanksgiving with him!  We did better with Christmas visits - either he would come to us or we would go to him!  You just do what you have to do lol. 

And thank goodness for facetime!

Q's Momma - we are also curious about Thanksgiving.  In 2021, my son's PIR was the day before Thanksgiving, so we got to spend that whole weekend with him in GL (well, during the day).  He went to GC on the following Tuesday and didn't class up until end of January.  BUT, he did come home for 17 days for Christmas (woo hoo!) and was supposed to class up Jan 10th.  He got Covid after Christmas, so he was instructed to stay an extra 3 days at home.  That caused him to get rolled back to late January.

I am a PLANNER and being a Navy mom is *not* fitting well with that.  LOL.  So now I'm making various versions of plans for Thanksgiving.  Plan A - he comes home for T'giving; Plan B - he has time off, but can't go more than 150 miles away.  Plan C - he only gets one day off.   Next, is making various versions of Christmas plans.  (And all of this is with the expectation that the final plan will have to be tweaked at the last minute.)  LOL

MomofJoseph - sounds like it's clear as mud lol!  And you've definitely got the Semper Gumby down!

I want to say Welcome Home to the USS Harry S. Truman!

They returned today after a 10 month deployment. Thank you for your service!

Q's Momma and anyone else keeping tabs on the leave discussion - Thanksgiving is a short time, it might also be a good time for the Sailors to see about qualifying to stand some of their Under Instruction watch training. To have some down time from studying. If they are close enough to get leave, that is one thing, but A school is tough!!  They might need this time to just chill. 

We did Skype with our son and included him as best as we could but that even proved to be difficult over the years. 

Welcome Home USS Harry S. Truman!! 

MomofJoseph - I use to be a huge planner. Now I am getting more like my husband, "just tell me when and where" and I will cancel all other appointments or obligations and be there as soon as I am able, or wave my magic wand, move boxes, shove furniture and blow up the air mattresses if they are coming to stay with me!!

Yeah, I think I'm going to have to let go of some of my planning genes.  But I'm resisting as long as I can!  LOL

LOL!!

MomofJoseph - once you are truly able to let go (and let the Navy have it's way) you will have a sense of relief.  It doesn't mean you won't get upset occasionally but you will learn to roll with the tide so to speak...

Remember......

So true. Am actually part of a military family (30+ years - Army) and have been keeping tabs here as my son is currently set to start Prototype soon. Navy is new to me, so am quite open to advice relating to it. As far as schedules/plans go, the only ones I will confirm are the ones already completed! (joke). The best way we manage such schedules is to loosely plan, such as "if they are able to, we will do this, else we may have another contingent plan."  In the end, we just tell them that we would love them and will do our best be available either here or there. It really is an adjustment, isn't it! 

Yes emilyl! Sounds like you understand the assignment lol!

And the big thing is when plans change and we are disappointed we have to remember our sailor is disappointed too.  You are right - we have to love them and support them through all of this!

emilyl - Most definitely!! The interesting thing about plans changing, I think I actually have a better handle on it than my DIL who is also a sailor. After she got done trying to plan their "honeymoon", and things with the ship where my son is still stationed got switched around, she said, "No more planning on my part until at least he is out!". She has reenlisted, so we will still be dealing with Navy flexibility for several years thought!

I received a letter from my son who states that he was informed Nuke school is backed up like 6 months.  What does that mean exactly?  Are there too many students and not enough instructors, or not enough students to fill classrooms?  I assume too many students as lots of Divisions just graduated.  He said he would have to be THU at GL until he got to go.  Does that sound normal?  Things could change by the time my SR goes, as he believes he will be set back in training again to W1 after the OPFA. 

I don't always comment, but I do read all of them.  Always saving snippets to my son's Navy folder. Things to remember, or to learn about. 

Unfortunately my job isn't "flexible" to be able to roll with the tide, but we are going to give it our best shot.  I just found out about the Military section of FMLA, so I will be speaking to my HR about this.  Not sure if it covers PIR, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

i talked last night to my son who has PIR 9/23. He isn’t going to THU. What rate did he get. My sine will be ETN

Good Evening Ladies - I have to scoot to a meeting, but I will try my best to reply when I get back tonight.

JNMnavymomOH- you might want to check out this group - Hurry up and Wait-THU - Navy For Moms (ning.com)  

Lancertrackmom - Did you delete your other post? It came into my email but I am not seeing it here. 

If you do a search above in the discussions (view all) we have had some posts in the past about what your sailor needs at GC. That said, I would suggest asking him what he wants or needs before mailing anything to him. We recently had a post a few pages back with the address, and if you can't find it, we can get it for you again. 

Glad to hear that we have "readers" even if you can't always chat!!

Lancertrackmom - my son isn't due to have PIR until 10/7.  He hasn't told me his rate yet, if he knows it.  He was ASMO'd once already.  Don't they get that after BS21?

Thank you for the info on THU group.  I saved it in case I actually need it.

JNMnavymomOH- here is a link to a discussion that was started in 2012 and has been added to over time. Again, if your sailor is having to wait to class up, (or be held in THU), he should have time to get the basic hygiene items needed at the mini - Nex. And as for an iron/ ironing board, their roommate might already have one.

When my son was there in 2017-19 there was a thrift store very near the base that was operated by some military related group - my son would go there occasionally to look for things. They did have limited hours.

I will try to answer the other questions tomorrow. 

JNMnavymomOH - Sorry, 1st of all, here is the link I said I was posting last night - A Sailors Needs for A school - Navy For Moms (ning.com) - It was time for bed. 

As far as THU, I replied to your question in BC about it. As for specifics with regards to what is going on at NNPTC and why they might be backlogged, I really have no idea. They could possibly still be dealing with repercussions from COVID and the various delays due to that. I have no idea. But THU is not uncommon for Nuke sailors. There was a large batch of them being held in THU, when my sailor was leaving GL and did everything, he could to make sure he wasn't staying in GL after his PIR.  If you are interested in reading my experience then read -  What PIR weekend may be like for those flying out of GL - Navy For ... . 

As far as the PIR weekend for your son, I don't have answers. This new format with the added weeks, and having PFA after BS21, is so different, we are having to rely on newer members to share their experience and unfortunately, you are one of the first few. Welcome to the guinea pig club!! Our covid moms especially could relate. You are going to have to take it one day at a time and hopefully he can get some more information to you. I wish him all the best on his PFA. That has got to be the hardest, knowing that you have worked so hard and given it you all, to be at that point. 

I did not mention as much about this on the BC Mom group when it first came up with your son, singling him out with a Nuke rate, but when my son got to NNPTC and told me about the PT requirements that they all had at least when he was there, and even that his ET rate had to do an extra day of PT, the joke was basically that they were all "nerds and not brawn".  When you first mentioned his situation, my assumption was that they would do their best to work with him for his PT, because they had recruited him for his potential at NNPTC and the classroom work. 

JNMnavymomOH - My son is at GC and he mentioned that they are backed up.  (I'm not sure what is okay to share, but the vague version is that something caused a delay in Prototype.)  My son expects to start Power School soon, but after he graduates from there, he expects a long delay before he can enter Prototype.  So maybe they are delaying Nukes from entering A school until the bottleneck clears some???  (Just speculation - I don't KNOW anything for sure.)

MomofJoseph - I heard the same thing.  My son is slated to graduate Power school in November and he told me it would be months before he started Prototype. 

Good Morning and Happy Monday!

Just remember, no matter how long they are on hold, the good thing is, it still counts toward their 6 year enlistment!

I checked my notes and when B finished Power School it was 4 days shy of 4 months before he finally started Prototype.  He did Proto in Ballston Spa, NY back in 2014.  So even back then there were delays lol!

Mom of Joseph, my daughters class was told that prototype hold would be about 18 months!  Then, boom, they were in a class and on their way before I could take a breath.  The 18 months turned into 18 days. 

It is what it is, until it isn't! 

Pizanche – Congrats on your son graduating Power School in November!  It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.  My son has enjoyed his 10 weeks of downtime between A school and Power school, but I think he’s happy that he gets to class up this week.  I hope they aren’t going crazy during the downtime between Power and Prototype.  (Personally, I like the schedule when they are in school because we have the option to visit on weekends.  We didn’t get that option during T-track.  BUT, I do know that others don’t get to do visit because of the distance, and I know that has to be hard to not see your Sailors!)

JayDee659 – that is CRAZY that you thought it would be 18 months and it was 18 days!  I can’t really wrap my mind around that. :-) But thank you for sharing and I REALLY appreciate “It is what it is – until it isn’t.”  I’m going to adopt that saying.  I have heard the first part, but never the second part.

B’sNukeMom – thank you for sharing that all of this time is part of their 6-year commitment.  I just told my sister that he committed to two years of Nuke School and four years in the fleet, so however long it takes him to get out of school, he still has 4 years in the fleet.  Thank you for clarifying! 

Bern – I responded to your discussion, but also wanted to say here that I really appreciate your perspective.  And I get that about the car door outside.  (I worry about that when my husband is late getting home from work, or when my younger son is out driving.  I know I’ll worry even more when my son is in the fleet.)  But I am so proud of his decision (and terrified at the same time).

Thanks to all of y’all – I love this group!

Mom of Joseph the next fun exercise was housing. My daughter called me in a slight panic because she had prototype orders for BS and had to have housing in a few days. Despite being in Vegas on vacation, I spent a morning lining up housing for her (she and her husband were both on duty) . The next day she called to tell me that orders changed and all married couples were staying in GC.  The Navy Mom who I was staying with took me out for a drink. I will add that my daughter was very appreciative. 

JayDee659 - Wow!  Thank you for sharing that.  I think you deserved (and needed) that drink! LOL

Good morning all. Here is a photo of North Island NAS as of now. Left to right...Abe, Chet, Carl.

The tan buildings in front of Lincoln are carrier BEQ, the white rectangle between Nimitz & Vinson is a berthing barge while Vinson is in yard status (temporary racks, galleys, etc.).

Have a great day everyone.

Canuka - great picture - thanks for sharing!

Happy Thursday all!  Although Fall has arrived summer is trying to make a come back here in SoCal.  It's supposed to be 103 on Monday and Tuesday!

We are heading to Colorado tomorrow for a wedding/vow renewal for our niece.  I'm excited because the whole family will be there.  B&C are flying in and the youngest and his fiancee are coming along too (I mean it is for their cousin so of course they'll all be there!).  I'm just excited that we'll all spend some time together.  Got a nice AirBnB, going to the zoo and a baseball game on Saturday and the wedding is Sunday.  Quick trip but I'll take it!

Thanks for sharing your pic Canuka! I’ve seen Vinson during my March visit in SoCal. Hope someone will share pics from Norfolk, i haven’t been … 

B’sNukeMom - have fun and be safe!! Ill take it too even just for a couple of hours.
I remember during the peak of covid when my son was still in GC i planned a simple lunch/dinner by the beach 6 ft apart!! But he got an approval that the same day of our arrival and stayed with us at a hotel. Its a 10 hour drive one way but we did good, i can’t tell how many times, i tried every 3 months to see him. Now that he’s in Norfolk.. wheew not sure how and when?? 

Hi all... it's been a while! My sailor is still stationed at Kitsap base in the Puget Sound (WA). I went out there in July for a special event where we were allowed to tour (parts) of the sub he is on. It was a super cool experience! To get out, I had to climb a metal ladder that was two stories tall! Anyone else take a tour?

The Hammer - that's cool that you got to tour the sub!  Wow, lots of climbing lol!  I never got to tour a sub - well except for the one at Patriots Point - but I did get to tour the USS Truman carrier when B was on it!  

Hi B's NukeMom! Yeah... I was really surprised that they offered it. It is amazing how much they cram into such a small space. We also went whale watching... which was wonderful. Saw a mama and baby humpback.