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Grad and Go - what is it, will my sailor be GnG?
There seems to be some confusion as to what is “grad and go”(GnG) and who will be GnG.
Grad and Go has nothing to do with where they are going, or what A school they will be attending.. It is purely a matter of who is ready to go.
Your sailor may know that s/he is GnG a few weeks after they arrive at Great Lakes, or they may not know until a few days before PIR.
The vast majority of Great Lakes A school sailors are NOT grad and go.
Grad and go sailors are:
1) those in the first two or four divisions, whose orders and travel plans are already finished before PIR. The Navy can't issue orders or make flight arrangements until after the sailors have passed their PFT and Battlestations, and it takes time to process1,000 or more sets of orders.
2) those whose schools will start on Monday and absolutely must be there before the weekend is over
3) those who the Navy arbitrarily decides need to be out of barracks before the weekend. There are always a few who are GnG for no apparent reason.
Later divisions in the group are almost never GnG. They often remain at RTC for a few additional days after PIR weekend to complete training, and to wait for their orders to be ready.
There are three types of GnG sailors:
1) those who will attend a Great Lakes A school. They will transfer to the A school side of base immediately after PIR and will begin their liberty weekend later in the afternoon.
2) those who will be put on a bus to the airport immediately after PIR to catch a flight to their new A school. The Navy keeps saying that they don't, that they quit that about 18 months ago, but it's not true. Several N4M parents in the last few months have reported that their sailors were GnG on Friday, and were put on the plane immediately after PIR.
3) those who will get Friday liberty, and will take the bus to the airport early Saturday to catch a flight. If they will be taking a commercial flight, you can meet them at the airport to get a few more hours together, and to give them their cell phones, laptop computers and other items. If they are on a charter flight, you will not get to visit them. Charter flight sailors take the bus straight to their plane, on the tarmac. They do not spend any time inside the airport terminal.
Sailors may fly out of any of three airports: Chicago O'Hare,Chicago Midway, or Milwaukee.
Remember, no one is stopping you from visiting your sailors in A-school in addition to or instead of PIR, its worth it if your sailor is a Friday GnG. Fifteen minutes with my sailor would NOT have been good enough for me!
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Permalink Reply by tackijacky on
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I have to agree with you when they say they quit doing it, and its not true statement....I found out the day after I booked my airplane tickets my SR is leaving Friday....very upsetting as I would have booked a flight to his a school, and ordered the dvd of the graduation. He is in the first division of his PIR on 2/11/11. Love my future Sailor.
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Permalink Reply by Stace (Ship 09 Div 067) on
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Mine is going straight across the street!! It will be nice to visit with her there, too!
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I just based it on what you said.....she is moving across the street to A school.
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Permalink Reply by Arwen on
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Okay, I am either confused, or I need to make my explanation more clear.
The first few divisions are grad and go, no matter where they are going. Grad and Go has NO relation to where they are going.
A few sailors from other divisions MAY be grad and go if the Navy for some reason wants them to be at their schools by Monday AND their orders are ready.
Most of those who will be going to Great Lakes for A school will remain at boot camp for PIR weekend.
When in doubt, ask your sailor.
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Permalink Reply by Lexsmom on
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Arwen, my daughter told me she was checking into A school right after PIR and that we would have her the whole weekend. Is it because she is the RCPO of her division that she will have the whole weekend, or does that make any difference?
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No, everyone gets the whole weekend. Once she gets to A school her status as RCPO ends, and she is just a very junior student.
New students don't have to stand watch yet because they are not yet trained for their watch standing rules (slightly different from bootcamp watchstanding). So they get the whole weekend with no breaks for watchstanding.
They can apply for overnight liberty, but that is usually denied unless there are special circumstances.
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Thanks Arwen, I got mail today, she said she may have to go back to RTC on her PIR weekend. She may have curfew. This is all fine with us. Whatever her schedule is, we will work around it. I appreciate the informaiton, we shall wait and see what happens, It is all good, we are just happy to be able to go and have her for a little while.
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Permalink Reply by mamawalrus on
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Letter from son today says he is not G & G....does this go for whole division or selected few?
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