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Permalink Reply by lemonelephant on
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A School for ABF is 36 calendar days from what I found, but not every Sailor classes up immediately upon arrival at A School; some are in holding for a week or more. Yes, most Sailors are able to take 10-14 days of leave after A School. You would have to be on his orders for the Navy to move you, so that first move will most likely be on you since you will not be married when he gets his orders. You may want to join one or both of these Groups: AB - Moms and/or Airman Family and Friends.
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Permalink Reply by Anti M on
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No, the Navy will not move a spouse if they are not married before the orders were issued. It is a short school, he might even get follow on orders to his permanent duty station while in boot camp.
I don't know if he will get to take leave, he'll have only earned about a week. Maybe.
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Permalink Reply by TN_Recruiter on
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False information here...
Let's say he receives his orders three weeks into his school...and he is supposed to detach Sept. 1 (for example). This is the "effective date" of his orders. If you get married before this date, you are entitled to PCS benefits with him.
Another example...
He receives his orders, detaches Sept. 1, and you get married Sept. 3rd and squeeze in a little honeymoon while he is using his PCS travel days. You will not get the funding up front, but your travel expenses will be reimbursed.
If ANYONE at PSD tells him something different than this, he needs to find it in the JFTR. I promise it is in there.
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JFTR, VOL 1, Chapter 5, Para. U5215
C. Dependents Acquired on or Before Effective Date of Orders. Except upon graduation from a Service academy (see par. U5222-A2), a member, who acquires a dependent on or before the effective date of PCS orders, is entitled to dependents’ travel and transportation allowances from the place where the dependent is acquired to the new PDS, up to the entitlement for travel from the old PDS to the new PDS. Such entitlement is without regard to:
1. whether TDY is directed or performed en route, or
2. the location of the old or new PDS.
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Thank you.
Do warn the potential spouses about unaccompanied overseas orders, that does happen and cannot be changed by acquiring dependents en route.
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You bring up a good point. I didn't think about the possibility of getting unaccompanied orders when I brought this up.
Basically, I received orders to Hawaii a week before my wedding. PSD said I was out of luck and moving her out of pocket, and I spent the following week pouring through the regs to find that little gem of information.
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The trick for these new sailors is that E-3 and below cannot take dependents overseas, which includes Hawaii. Were you an E-4 or E-5? That would have made all the difference. OCONUS travel without command sponsorship is near impossible. Hawaii, being the US avoids the visa/SOFA issue of course.
I'm just trying to refine the information as much as possible. So it is good to know that a wedding on leave will result in a paid move, although the effective date worries me.
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I know I found the definition of "effective date" in the regs before, but for some reason it escapes me now...
I was a seaman apprentice when I got married. This was in 2007
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Interesting, I also found similar info on http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/milmarriage.htm. It indicates that the reimbursement may take a while since the orders would then need to be amended. It also notes that overseas orders may have to be extended, but from discussions on here, I understand that there are some places that dependents are not permitted, so I would suspect that the Navy would not reimburse the move to those places.
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Overseas command sponsorship is a whole different world of regulations. It isn't just the paid move, it is screening for suitability, visas, and more. And as I have stated, E-3 and below are not authorized to take dependents overseas. I have seen waivers approved for Guam for an E-3, but not for anywhere else. Even E-4s who received unaccompanied orders to Japan have had long waits to get their dependents approved, and some commands are just not going to approve it.
Better to marry during A school and potentially avoid the hassles. Marrying during A school has hassles too, but may prevent other headaches.
And one more thing, he can move household goods as a single sailor, the weight allowance will be less, but he can request it in some cases. So if you ar
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