Delayed in Bootcamp

[Bridgette]

Our daughter has been delayed in boot camp because she didn't pass the run.  Anyone know what happens from here?

[LADYPG]

you are right the 3 bitches and Craig need to get wasted you already are are total ASS HOLES maybe if it happened to either of your children your tune would be different.  This is a support site can't you read what kind of support do you think you are given you 4 need to start up your own site called ASS HOLES each of you fit the description well.

 

you all are cowards any one can and will say anything when not face to face. I sure would like to meet up with you one on one face to face. I bet you would talk another tune face to face.  People like you are ignorant and a dime a dozen.

 

Again I say if the shoe was on the other foot you would have been singing another tune.  

[Bridgette]

Craig,

You are a riot!  I appreciate your help and support.  I wish our daughter was a better runner but as you said, we all have our weak spots.  She is an amazing swimmer.  I wish they could transfer time between the swim & run tests. She would be fine then. LOL!  Any which way, thanks again. )

[Craig]

Bridgette - Your daughter will do excellent when she finally gets out of boot camp.  Most duty stations in the fleet (by this, I mean, shore or ship) allows sailors to do the swim instead of the run.  If you ever read  the rules on swimming, then you will NEVER do the run again.  It's one of the last loop holes that the Navy hasn't fixed.  

With the swim, you can stop, you can hold on to the sides, you can push off the sides, you can do any stroke, and you actually feel refreshed because the sweat goes in the water.  I will post the rule below so you can look at them, you'll be amazed.  

My son as never done the run in 4 years.  He only does the swim.  What's funny is most sailors believe it is impossible to do the swim.  The reason? It's because they think they have to swim.  You don't.  Heck you can push off the sides and get 1/3 the way, stop, swim a little bit, the push off the other side.  It is soooo easy,  Any sailor that sucks at running really needs to read the rules.  Once they do, then try it.  I guarantee they will never do the run again....

The website is down now, but try this link tomorrow.  Look for the swim rules, then talk to your daughter.  There is light at the end of the tunnel.  Out of boot camp she will do excellent...just keep motivating her.  

http://doni.daps.dla.mil/Directives/06000%20Medical%20and%20Dental%...

 

 

[Bridgette]

Thank you! I cannot wait to tell her about the swim rules :)

[BunkerQB]

amrsmom,

Take a step back. Are you saying that a mother who is disappointed is not truly loving and supportive?  We each and all have goals for ourselves and our children. My goals are not necessarily my son's goals. HE is the one who must do the job (perform). While my husband and I take a "hands off" approach as our sons matured from the teenage years to young adulthood, we were very "hands on" during their formative years. One of the incentives in life is to live up to a standard - whether it's set by oneself or set by external influences (like a parent, teacher, mentor). If you have any expectation for your child, then it's highly probable that you will be disappointed at one point or another, to one degree or another, in your child. My sons and we talk about expectations, disappointments, goal setting, feedback, adjustment, regrouping, moving forward all the time. It is how we learn from our mistakes. We teach them to cope with NOT succeeding. If you carry the "let's booster his/her self-esteem no matter what" approach too far and at a point in his/her life when she has to take responsiblity - then you are not doing her any favors.

I am not criticizing. I understand your feeling. Of course, I have felt what you feel on certain occasions.

To help your daughter become a better sailor, help her adjust to the way Navy deals with ups and downs. She will become stronger for it.

Sincerely,

BunkerBQ.

None of us have to be here. We ARE here because we care about our sailors and their families.

[Angie]

My two cents is you need to be disappointed in your daughter.  Why wasn't she training and working out before she left for bootcamp?  I don't understand why people always try to blame someone else when reality the blame lays with the person. 

[amrsmom,]

For your information she was training and working out before she left for Boot camp.  This child went from not be being able to do one push up to 45 pushups on her  own and also running everyday to get ready for boot camp.  So before you question why she was not ready first know the facts.  This site is to encourage and assist people and not frown upon people who are going through a difficult time. Shame on you both .  For you two with the smart comments I truly wonder what exactly would be your thoughts if  your SR did not make the PFA.  Lady Hamilton her PFA was on Monday the makeup was on the next  Friday.  The PIR Friday to be exact so tell me how that is not waiting till the last minute and where are the multiple opportunities to pass the PFA if the next makeup is after the PIR. For Angie, I am not and will not ever be disappointed  in my daughter.  No matter what the situation is or was.  A truly loving and supportive mother is never disappointed in their child.

[TN Navy Mom (Stennis Nuke Mom)]

Mine didn't PIR last year either.  Angie, AntiM, Bunker, craig and all the other A$$h*9les who don't sugar coat or kiss A$$ gave me the best information out there.  I have learned from them that, Well, it is what it is.  I sent my SR letters telling him that he made the choice to go Navy and now he had to grow a set and finish!!!!  We would only be disappointed if HE didn't do absolutely everything in his power to succeed.  If he gave up, that's on him. 

 

Please do NOT call names on the most informative people here.  They gave you information that you asked for.  Yes this is a supportive site and I have received and given tons over the last year and a half

[Craig]

You guys might want to read this...

http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=54872

[LADYPG]

you are right the 3 bitches and Craig need to get wasted you already are are total ASS HOLES maybe if it happened to either of your children your tune would be different. This is a support site can't you read what kind of support do you think you are given you 4 need to start up your own site called ASS HOLES each of you fit the description well.

 

you all are cowards any one can and will say anything when not face to face. I sure would like to meet up with you one on one face to face. I bet you would talk another tune face to face. People like you are ignorant and a dime a dozen.

 

Again I say if the shoe was on the other foot you would have been singing another tune.

[amrsmom,]

Very nicely put Lady pg.  If the shoe was on the other foot they would definetly be singing a different tune.  This site if for support of each other, not to be belittle people that are going through a bad situation.  Even if they thought these negative and stupid comments, one should have  common sense and keep it to themselves.   I applaud you Lady PG

[Craig]

 

LadyPG - Thank you for the compliment.  I am an @sshole.  

When I hear people push blame on the "system", when in fact, it's their own fault it kind of ticks me off.  It's almost like a police car chase, when a criminal kills a family in a car accident while trying to excape, then all of a sudden it becomes the police fault.  Why?  If the criminal would have obeyed the rule and pulled over, then the family would still be alive.  So yes, you can shift blame on the "system", but those that do and just feeding into the problem.  Much like an Ostrich sticking their head in the sand by thinking the problem just goes away, just doesn't happen.  But unlike the Ostrich, I know where your head is at...

Most deppers in todays Navy are usually in DEP for at least 6 months.  In those 6 months the Navy has told these Deppers countless times about the PFA, and how they need to pass it.  However, some of these deppers, think the Navy will "shape them up" while in boot camp.  Boot camp isn't the biggest looser tv show, it's a profession.  It's to see who meet the standards, and who can't.  Like I posted,  over 93% pass the PFA when they are in FIT.  

Being a sailor in boot camp that did fail the PFA, I learned real quick that the easiest way out of boot camp was to complete it.  I did pass, and graduated on time.  I learned.  So, I'm not as ignorant as you make me out to be.  Walk a mile in my shoes, and you will learn too.  But, how can you?  You said "if the shoe was on the other foot", you probably won't keep up because you have your shoes on the wrong feet. 

Anyways, I do want to thank you for your comments.  I enjoy a great debate...  If you want to discuss ANY Navy rules or policies, just let me know.  I totally enjoy teaching people the Navy way of doing things.  

Lastly, you might want to read this rule about failing the PFA in the fleet 3 times in a 4 year period.  To me, I'd much rather have a recruit fail the PFA in boot camp, where it doesn't have life long consequences like it does in the fleet.  

http://www.navy-prt.com/navadmin180-05.html  (para 5)

 

btw:  Just to clarify....