Please help!! Urgent Spec Ops question!!!!

[Jane (SHIP 13 DIV 314)]

I posted this question in another thread then realized that the thread was from 2008 so I am posting it here instead in the hope that I might get help.....
I have a question about spec ops.... My son is leaving for bootcamp on the 2nd of August. He had to enlist as A BU 1 because of security clearance issues and 2 because it was the only thing left! You see he is a dual citizen and didn't find out until late that he would have to renounce his Australian citizenship to get security clearance for spec ops. Now Australia is dragging their feet with the renunciation. It still hasn't come through and it is killing him! He REALLY wants to try out for the AIRR program, he always has but didn't have a choice at MEPS because of the security issue. My question is, if the renunciation doesn't come through within the next 6 days, when will he have the opportunity to try out? Well they still let him try out in bootcamp? Will he have to go to his enlisted A school and wait for the next opportunity? Will they possibly put him on hold for it? He had an excellent ASVAB score. He qualified except for the stupid security because of dual citizenship :( If anybody can help me or point me in right direction for help? Please????!! Thank you all!!!

[Angie]

I answered in the other forum you posted in.

 

Short version of answer...he can't be able to switch jobs in bootcamp, nor in school.  He will be required to be in the job he is in for at least 24 months after all schooling before he can request to change jobs.

 

Even if the renunciation...came back today..he would still be leaving with BU.

 

If he doesn't want BU...HE should go to the recruiter and tell him he wants out of DEP. Than once the renunciation is done...he can go back to the recruiter and TRY to join again. 

[Jane (SHIP 13 DIV 314)]

Thanks Angie for your reply. His recruiter and the MEPS career guy assured him that he would have the opportunity to try out for special ops while in bootcamp. In fact he said they all get asked if they want to try out... So now I'm really confused....

[Anti M]

The odds of him switching in boot camp are very slim.  I do know certain rates have contracts which cannot be broken.  Hubby was one such, apparently they have a spec ops guy watching them swim, he wanted  him for SEALs but couldn't take him because of the AECF contract.  

And what if he tries out and they don't take him? Will he be happy as a SeaBee?  (Seabees rock, and they don't have an 80% drop out rate like the spec ops guys, just an opinion).

[Concernedad]

My son had to pre-qualify to go in as Spec Ops. He had certain physical testing, not to mention they test for additional things like eyesight and hearing, which the requirements are different.

Also, from what I recall reading beforehand, I "believe" in order to get the Spec Ops bonus, you need to go in under a Spec Ops contract.

What my son told me is when you get there, they ask who is in under a Spec Ops contract to line up on one side. You may be able to say you're there for it, but once they see your papers, you get moved back over. Much more strict standards, including background checks

 

Qualifications

Aviation Rescue Swimmers (AIRRs) have one of the most physically demanding jobs in the world. When it comes to saving lives, their strength, speed and endurance decide whether a mission is successful or unsuccessful.

To qualify for Rescue Swimmer Training, both men and women must:

• Meet specific eyesight requirements: uncorrected vision no worse than 20/100; correctable to 20/20 in both eyes with normal depth and color perception
• Meet the minimum Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) score: VE+AR+MK+MC=210 or VE+AR+MK+AS=210
• Pass a Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL BUD/S physical fitness screening test in Boot Camp and in the Delayed Entry Program (DEP) in order to qualify

The chart below highlights the current minimum Navy Physical Screening Test (PST) requirements for Navy Challenge Programs – for aspiring members who are in the Delayed Entry Program (DEP), in Boot Camp or already serving in the Navy.

NOTE: If you're pursuing an NSW/NSO position, much better PST scoring is expected.

Minimum PST Physical Screening Test	SEAL	SWCC	EOD	Diver	AIRR
Swim 500 yards (450 M) – breaststroke or sidestroke [in minutes]	12:30	13:00	14:00	14:00	12:00*
REST: 10 MINUTES
Push-ups [in 2 minutes]	42	42	42	42	42
REST: 2 MINUTES
Sit-ups [in 2 minutes]	50	50	50	50	50
REST: 2 MINUTES
Pull-ups [in 2 minutes]	6	6	6	6	4
REST: 10 MINUTES
Run 1.5 miles [in minutes]	11:00	12:30	12:45	12:45	12:00

*AIRR may use sidestroke or breaststroke and utilize American crawl/freestyle or a combination of all.

NOTE: You should consult your physician or other health-care professional before starting any exercise regime or other fitness program to determine if it is right for your needs. This is particularly true if you (or your family) have a history of medical illnesses or ailments that could be made worse by a change in physical activity. Do not start a fitness program if your physician or health-care provider advises against it.

 

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[Denise-- Seabee Mom]

YEPPERS.. Seabee's are awesome.

[Denise-- Seabee Mom]

[Concernedad]

Those are some weird looking tanks.

[ebigirl]

Got that right Denise and Anti M!!! SEABEE'S are AWESOME!!!

I'm another proud mom of a Seabee!!!  :-)

[Jane (SHIP 13 DIV 314)]

Thanks to everyone who replied! :)
He received his renunciation papers on August 1st. He took them to MEPS with him the day he left (August 2nd) and they changed his security clearance for him.
He is WELL within the limits for the AIRR program as far as his PT. His swim alone is under half the minimum.
I guess now we just wait and see.
As far as would he be happy being a seabee? He assured me that yes, he would be :)