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Ship 04 (USS Arleigh Burke) Divisions 801 & 802 (Brother Divisions)
Welcome to the discussion group for divisions 801 & 802!!!
It only happens a few times a year when there are two special ops groups in one TG.
Be very aware when posting about your SRs who are in this division. Make sure you read the OPSEC rules (everyone should).
sjtina and a couple more ladies will be joining you to answer your questions about this "800" division. Although your SR is still in BC, what they are doing may be slightly different from what the other divisions in this training group are doing. It is also recommended that you go into your "settings" (clickable link on the right side) and change your privacy setting to "private" and change everything to friends only.
Please still use the main wall to post general questions, and concerns, such as meet and greet questions etc. Specific questions regarding the 800 division should be posted here.
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Permalink Reply by sjtina on
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Also the term "the only easy day was yesterday" is universal for 800 divisions, even at BC.
Hmm let me think about this
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Permalink Reply by Bears Nana on
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The coins look awesome
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Permalink Reply by Treymom321 on
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Love these too. Would even want to purchase one after PIR as a keepsake for our SR.
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Permalink Reply by sierra203 on
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Hi Craig -- The designs of these coins are beautiful. Definitly something to be treasured.
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Permalink Reply by JackFlash on
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Hi Craig-- I love the idea of the coins... I know they won't be ready or available for this group, but it's still a great idea to create keepsakes like this. You are right-- the 800 Divisions are not SEALS or anything other than "recruits," like all the SR's at Great Lakes. From what I understand, the 800's have a greater emphasis on physical preparations for the jobs (ratings) they are pursuing.
I think, that most of them (all of them?) would have already earned contracts for Special Operations through the Challenge Program--- at least that is the path my son took enroute to Boot Camp and into an 800 Division. The groups include candidates to become Navy Divers, EOD?, SEAL, SWCC, and Rescue Swimmers.... any others?
When I watched some of the pre-BUD/S info on 800 Divisions, the obvious emphasis is on physical training. As a marketing guy-- I'd try to encompass that concept for the coin. You are right in avoiding direct references to the various ratings (that they have not yet earned) since these Recruits are simply "candidates" at this point. I'd steer more toward a concept like "Fit for Duty" and perhaps depict the push ups, pull ups, sit ups, running and swimming that they all do as part of their fitness routine, and that are set as the standards they had to meet in order to qualify for their aspirations through the PST's they all had to pass.
Just my thoughts. Thanks for your efforts to create something special.
For everyone:
When I think 800 Division...... I think...... (Enter your own idea)
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Permalink Reply by Craig on
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JackFlash - Thanks for the info. I totally agree. I actually love two things,
1. Corvettes
2. Challenge Coins
The coin for the 800 group needs to be perfect. Being a SEAL is a long, winding road. The ring-out rate is 75%. I know because I'm also a member of the "Drop on Request" group here at N4M. It's a closed group that talks about the SEALS that have DOR'd. To me, it's an honor just to try for it. These sailors have the utmost respect in my mind. Heck, there's no way I could ever do it.
I really want to get the true meaning of everything about these guys. They go through a totally different training regime than other sailors. Just look at their PT standards.
This is really hard for me, because I want these guys to know the history of their ship, USS Burke, but I also must do something for them to remember this training, just as I did for the 900 division. But I only have a 3/4 inch area to do it. So I can't have much, but I can try to get the best of the area I can.
What I don't want is to say these guys are SEALS, their not. However, I can say they are on the path of their desired dream.
You can see now why I need this groups thoughts....
So are the AW's part of this group too? Per the instruction manual it only has the following (are their other ratings)?
Special Warfare Operator (SO), Special Warfare Boat Operator (SB), Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD), Navy Diver (ND); Aircrew Rescue Swimmer (AIRR), or the Underwater Construction Team (UCT) Construction Diver.
From para - 010301 here http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/Directives/1130_8J_VOL%20IV_P...
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Permalink Reply by ElsieS on
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I think the div 800 expression sjtina wrote in would be a cool integral part of a Challenge Coin; it captures the difficult training aspect without singling out any specific SpecOps rating.
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Believe me, I'm taking notes about everything. I truly want to get something that's kind of cool.
I can't wait to hear you guys stories about your sailors. This is how I can see what's important to them. Like I said, I put in a lot of time to get everything right. I want these guys to have something cool, and that they will be proud of showing.
Question: I know you guys will be getting letters soon. What I'd like to know is what extra stuff they are doing besides the different PT standards. Is this the only difference compared to the "regular" sailors? Read through on the main section and compare your group with the others. See if you notice that your sailors are different. I can imagine that they throwing "medicine balls" while they running just to gain upper body strength. I mean this would get them ready for "Old Misery"
For those that don't know, here's the question:
During SEAL team log PT, if a boat crew drops their log, what log do they pick up?
a. "Old Misery"
b. "Big Boy"
c. "The Evil Queen"
d. "Fat Guy"
Here is a picture of that log...
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800 divisions have pool time. There is really cool picture of drownproofing floating around. Wet and sandy as you see in the picture will be later in BUDs.
Its hard to think of a specific to 800 division training since the majority of it is mental. They get beat for everything (beat meaning extra PT and very creative forms of punishment) The letters will be more specific as to that. My son's division bird watched through a frosted window for 2 hours.
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Permalink Reply by michie on
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I'm glad you clarified "beat". I'm reading the "hand fist " seal book (I'm not good at remembering titles~yes, I know I should remember when I look at it all of the time) I was hoping it had a different meaning than we were used to.
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