PERTNENT PIR TIPS!

[CatMom509]

Hi Friends!!

These are current tips from the March 8, 2013 PIR!  It went by so quick, but is now a treasured memory!  Here are some of my thoughts about this awesome experience

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1.  If you're renting a car, be sure to also rent the IPASS which allows you to be on the 294/94/90 toll roads without having to pay for every toll stop and having exact change.  If you realized you missed any tolls while you are there, you can pay them within 7 days of incurring them before you get a big bill. The IPASS was only $6.95 each day from Enterprise Rent-a-Car.  I reserved using an upgrade coupon #ALRUP10 which gave me a Standard vehicle for the Compact rate.  Call  866-502-1257 if the online system won't take the coupon.  It's good until 12-31-2013.  Their customer service was outstanding and their vehicle was very clean.  All their vehciles go through their car wash before being rented again.  Their shuttle pulled right up to the Ground Transportation median at Chicago O'Hare when we walked up.

For those of you driving in, there is also an EZ PASS available in several states surrounding RTC.  They are supposed to be available in grocery stores.  A search engine can provide you with more details.

If you want to insure you don't get lost, you can go on Google and get the directions from the airport to your hotel, hotel to restaurnt, hotel to the airport your Sailor will be flying out of (I did both airports because you are driving at 12:30 am in the morning and things look different than the daytime), between the airports if you don't have time to nap at your hotel after seeing your Sailor off.  To get Turn by Turn Directions to follow, click on Print, then at the top, where Show for All Steps is , click Maps, the turn by turn pops up and you can print them out.  I would rather be prepared than surprised and my daughter's cell phone battery was dying, so relying on the GPS was gonna get hairy... Also, some of those GPS devices aren't reliable.

2. The Speedway gas station at the southwest corner of Buckley Road (137) and Skokie Hwy 41 freeway had the best price for gasoline at $3.75/gallon.  I topped off there before returning the vehicle back to Enterprise.  The prices I saw at other stations were $3.83/$3.88 along the 294.  Enterprise told me their "discounted" price to pre-pay the gasoline in the rental car was $4.20/gallon.  Along the 90/94/55 route going to the Midway Int'l Airport, the prices were $4.38/gallon.

3.  It takes a good hour minimum to get to the Midway Int'l Airport and you will pass the big Chicago city skyline.  The route will be 41 South, 94 East, 90 East, 55 South, Exit 286 Cicero Avenue/Illinois 50, turn left.  (All the streets seemed to have a name and a number assigned to it.)  Parking is $5/hour at the Terminal lot, but since we got to spend 10 hours with our new Sailor daughter, we opted to park at the Red Lot on the right almost to the airport for $14.00/day.  They had a free shuttle and heated Shuttle stops to wait in. Please make sure that you bring id (student Ids with photo) for your children too so that they can also get a Gate Pass to see your Sailor off at the gate.  Contrary to what the RDCs tell your Sailors, the airports welcome families there to see your Sailor off.  They all have to arrive at the airport at the same time (1:00 am - 2:00 am), but their flight left at 5:30 am, 11:15 am, 4:00 pm, etc).  This is where you give your Sailor their cell phone, cell phone charger, laptop, ac adapter for the laptop,several pairs of their own comfortable underwear, any other selected clothes, and maybe some of their favorite treats (no liquids) that can fit into their backpack.  You will ship more later to them at A school.  They will check their giant 50 lb seabag and their garment bag, but keep their backpack with them.  You will follow your Sailor's group to the ticket counter when they get their boarding passes, then each Sailor will come back to your family to get your Gate Passes.  Both Midway and O'Hare have volunteer guys who help the groups get organized and get their passes.  The bearded guy at Midway unfortunately wastes some time asking the Sailors unrelated things like their ages, where they are from etc.. So unless someone (maybe a dad?) speaks up and asks how is that relevant?  Everyone will just have to wait through his gabbing to get their time with their Sailor.  Once you get through the TSA checkpoint, the Sailors will go to the USO to drop off their backpacks and paperwork for safekeeping.  They have to note when they need to be at the gate to board (about 1 1/2 hour before the plane's departure time).  You get to wander the terminals looking for places to eat and things to buy with your Sailor!!  My daughter wanted Ben & Jerry's at 6:30 am in the morning~~  Take photos!!  They are still in their dress uniforms and I missed out on some photos of my daughter with other Sailors she was friendly with.

4. Sarge's Meet & Greet was at the Sundance Saloon to the leftside across the road from the Springhill Suites.  It does not have a lit sign and the parking lot was set low covered by the snow drifts.  With Daylight Savings time, it will probably be light when you arrive.  Doors open at 5:30pm, the food is set up about 6:00pm  Cash bar with free water.  He gives alot of info about driving into the PIR and all his shortcuts.  You sign up for his PIR shuttles at the end of the evening about 8:00 pm to 9:00 pm. After PIR his shuttles (minivans) were parked to the right of the NEX/Ricky Heaven in that parking lot.  Make sure it says Sarge's.  Other taxi's will overcharge the Navy families.  He does have a partner named Dave/David who was driving one with Metro on it, but since I called him, he was able to tell me "you were the one who called me" when all the other taxis were trying to get my attention.  I needed to get my Sailor back to RTC by 6:30pm, so I coordinated with another Navy family who got in the shuttle when we did to meet in the lobby at 5:30 pm so our Sailors could ride in together.  I forgot about calling Sarge earlier, but Sarge himself was there in 15 minutes.  He charged $6 for each Sailor since there was only 2.  If there was more, it would've gone down to $3 each.  For a single Sailor, it would have been $15.00.   I opted to have Sarge bring my Sailor daughter back to the RTC because I wanted to get some sleep before heading out to the airport at midnight.  Don't forget to tip Sarge and his guys and don't be late to the lobby when they come to get you.  Other people have gotten in the vans without prior arrangements. Get down to the lobby to look for his shuttle out front earlier than your appointed time.  If you miss your appointment time, then Sarge has to scramble to have someone come get you.  His shuttle sits outside the hotel entrance, so go outside to look for Sarge's shuttle.  He is frequently early waiting for you.

5..  The signs on their tollway/expressway system go from left to right overhead that tells you the upcoming exits and transitions.  I at first thought these signs were guiding me which lane to be in the make the transition like in California, but no, I had to change lanes quickly to get to the correct lane for transitions.

6.  Holiday Inn Express in Waukegan was $114.99 for a 2 queen room (comfy beds!) It's a new hotel and looks it.  The hot breakfast had french toast, bagels, bacon, sausage, scrambled eggs, biscuits & gravy, warm cinnamon rolls, cereal, coffee, milk, juice and some other items I don't remember.  Use the toaster to warm the french toast.  The bread items were cold.  The breakfast buffet starts at 6:00 am on PIR Friday and 7:00 am on Saturday.  This was an excellent hotel!!  They allow a late check-out of 2:00 pm if you join their Holiday Inn Priority Club, which you can join while you are there.  Oh, there is a McDonalds right next to them.  Holiday Inn Express, 611 Lakehurst Road, Waukegan, IL 60085, 847-473-4400.  Ask to see if their Navy rate or Best Available is the better rate.

7.  PIR -  We got to the RTC at 6:45 am, showed our ids & were checked against the list, walked through their museum area, then into the graduation drill hall.  We got the last 2 spots against the wall on the lower bleachers area, just to the right of the division sign.  The divisions actually line up to the left of the sign, so we were a little further right than we needed to be.  Even though my Sailor daughter was in the front flag line of her division, it was still hard to make her out because they are all short in the ftont.  She told us she was stick 2, but she wasn't carrying a flag at all.  Each division had 2 front flags with the divison number and division flag that they designed and that is what is on the Division shirts that you can order. My daughter bought ones for her sister and myself as gifts.  You can order more for the rest of your family later.  They keep the designs for an extended period of time.  Then there is the front line of "sticks".  There was a person holding a flag, person with no flag, 2 people with flags, person with no flag, and a person with a flag.  Bring your binoculars to see their faces!!  After PIR, my daughter stayed put and we went down to find her.  Otherwise, your Sailor will be walking around looking for you and you will be looking for him/her!  they will want to take photos without their raincoat on, so take advantage of that.  Standing at attention, parade rest, with some of their nearby friends, do all of that, I missed some picture taking opportunity.  Position your Sailor against the cream colored back wall for the best contrast with their uniform (she was in her dress blues).  I took photos of her with all the people around her and the photos were not as good.  If they are wearing their dress whites, look for a darker background.  DO NOT take any photos of the outside buildings, signs, structures at all.  If you are caught, they will erase your whole memory card.  You can take pictures inside the museum and graduation drill hall.  You can also take some nice photos in your hotel's lobby, now that I'm thinking of it (calm and not rushed, with their hair perfect).

8.  Sailor Daughters - If your daughter would like to get her eyebrows done when they are out with you, we found a great place with my other daughter's cell phone and GPS. It's Octagon Salon & Spa, 1333 Delany Road, Gurnee, IL 60031 847-360-9880 www.octagonsalon.com  Their esthetician, Leia Mueller, did an excellent job with my daughter's eyebrows and she charged only $18, not including a tip.  It's about 15 mins north on the 41 Skokie Hwy.  They are a very classy, upscale establishment.  My Sailor was so happy to get this done after not being able to do so at Boot Camp!!  Also, I checked on their prices for additional services: manicures started at $21 and pedicures started at $26.

9.  Lastly, ask your Sailor what they want to do!  Leave enough time for them to rest and take a shower.  They may not want to be dragged all over Chicago sightseeing, especially if they have to be on the bus to the airport at midnight on Friday.  The ones with Sailors staying in Great Lakes for A school are probably the only ones who would have some time to go to a bunch of places.

10.  If your Sailor didn't order his/her photos, you can go to the Photos area behind the double glass doors to the left of the NEX.  The room is to the immediate left to look at the proofs and see what is included in the 2 packages available.  They take 2 shots, smiling and not smiling.  You look at the proofs and decide to order.  It is just a United States flag against a mottled blue background and your Sailor in front.  We thought we could get a better photo somewhere else.  You will have to order the Yearbook separately.  You can order the graduation DVD in there too.  They will not allow you to keep a proof.  Their phone number is 847-578-6205.

11.  Be aware.  The TSA allows liquids maximum 3.4 oz each for shampoos, lotions, toothpaste, hair spray, etc. and all these small bottles need to be in one quart size zipped plastic bag that you put in the bin with your shoes and the other carry on purse/backpack.  After you go through, you could put it back into your 22" carry on.  Delta allowed larger carry ons that were about 24" to be brought to the gate, then they will take it with a hot pink tag and put it on a rack to be in cargo, but it is not considered checked baggage and you won't be charged for it.  They then bring these back for you to collect on the gangway.

12.  There is a larger NEX (Navy Exchange Store) off base, not far away.  The one at RTC is the size of a 7-11 or gas station convenience store and really crowded after PIR.  So if you don't have any business needing photos or ordering the Keel or PIR dvd at the Photo Lab by the RTC NEX, head over to this one:

          Burkey Mall NEX                               www.mynavyexchange.com

          Greenbay Road

          Building No 3452

          Great Lake,  IL

          847-578-6280/6281

                 Monday - Saturday       9:00 am - 8:00 pm

                 Sunday                       10:00 am - 6:00 pm

 

This is all I can remember to share with you, so if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer. Sorry its all out of order too, but I wrote things as they came to me.

I can't believe how fast the time went.  PIR was a very special day (and night at the airport) to share with our Sailor

[ellen0502]

To the left or right of the signs. The reason is head on you can only see the sailors in the first couple of rows because of the straight formation lines. If you sit off one side or the other (like in this picture) you see more faces. :)

[CatMom509]

8isenuff,

They will probably have the six divisions on the floor 037 - 042 separated by the performance area in the center.  So 038 might be on one section of the bleachers and 041 would be on the other side.  You would probably need to divide you family up and one part sits on one side and the other sits on the other side.  Looking at the graduates, it should be like this:

    

   037         038         039       905      Performance Area    906       040        041         042

 

                 Bleachers                           Officers & Honor                        Bleachers

                                                              Grad Families

905 and 906 will be on the floor doing the flags in the beginning and singing/playing drums etc, then will  line up with the others.    There will be a Sailor next to the division number standing on the floor across from the bleachers.  It certainly looks like your family will have to split up.   Ask your son and daughter exactly where in the division where they will be standing (5th row, second from left, etc) because they will look alike standing next to someone else the same height and maybe even hair color and have the same style of glasses!  You will probably have to use the zoom on your camera alot!

I don't think you should have a problem with your camera.  There are no limitations on the level of cameras brought inside that I am aware of.  Hope this helps!!!

                                                                

[8isenuff (ET & MM)]

Catmom509,

Thank you for posting the seating arrangements.  I think you are correct.  We will have to split up.  :-(  Oh, well.  Good thing I have two cameras!  I did remember to ask where they are standing.  Thanks again for the great tips.  I took notes!!  lol

[CatMom509]

Now this is weird!  I didn't see that ellen0502 had already responded to your query about seating and your camera with a photograph backing up what I had diagrammed.  Thanks ellen0502!!

[ellen0502]

[8isenuff (ET & MM)]

Okay, friends, I have another question.  You will find I have many. ;-)  We will be driving from our home to GL, so we will have our car (actually 2 cars - 8 people, 4 for each SR)  Do you girls suggest driving to the base for PIR, or getting a shuttle ride from Sarge?  What is the most expedient and least frustrating way to get around at the base?  I read conflicting information, so I am a little confused.   

[CatMom509]

Personally, I really liked just leaving my rental car at the hotel and having Sarge pick us up at our hotel!!  Drove us right to the gate, a little less than 5 min walk to the graduation hall entrance.  Afterward, walked over to the NEX while my Sailor daughter went to get her wallet (and surprise division shirts for us!)  Then to the parking lot to the right of the NEX to get into a Sarge shuttle.  $3 each way.  Brought us right back to the hotel where my Sailor relaxed just a bit--remember, they have been standing at least for 2 hours.  Then out for our meal.  Even though I would have known to bypass the line going into RTC and all, just didn't want to deal with parking and the other drivers there.  I programmed Sarge's number into my cell to easily contact him: SARGE 847-212-0246.

If you plan on dropping your SR back to RTC, you will need the gate pass to get them closer inside for their walk to the barracks.  I put my Sailor onto another Sarge shuttle to save us time for a nap before meeting her at the airport~~