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My son and his recruiter tried to meet with my son's father today but he was being highly cooperative and was saying bizarre things like the government was out to get him, that he was being investigated and that my son was a puppet for the government. I'm pretty sure he was high. Needless to say, he refused to meet with them and to sign the paper.
Has anyone ever experienced this? Was your child able to join without the other parent's signature? Worst case scenario, we have to wait until he turns 18 next summer which we REALLY don't want, but it really upset my son that his "father" refused to do this for him and is trying to control the situation. Thank you.
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Permalink Reply by Mamma D on
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I believe he must turn 18 during Boot Camp even with parents signatures
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Permalink Reply by lemonelephant on
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As of April 13, 2011, 17 year old applicants may enlist into the Delayed Entry Program but may not ship prior to their 18th birthday, unless their 18th birthday will occur no later than 90 days from date of shipping.
See this note on page 19 of the Navy Recruiting Manual for Enlisted at http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/Directives/1130_8J%20VOL%20II....
Note 1: 17 year old applicants may enlist into the Delayed Entry Program but may not ship prior to their 18th birthday, unless their 18th birthday will occur no later than 90 days from date of shipping. All other notes regarding enlistment of 17 year old applicants still apply.
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Permalink Reply by Cee81 on
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Thank you.
Yes, he will have been in the DEP until after he graduates next May. He turns 18 two months after graduating. I was wondering if there was any way of getting around having to have his absentee father sign. It is really a shame it is necessary that although this "man" has never made one decision for my son (except the decision to not be there)that suddenly we need his "approval". I'm writing someone a letter about this...this is ridiculous.
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Permalink Reply by CryptoDad on
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Do you and dad share custody? If only one parent is entitled to legal custody of the applicant then only that parent’s consent is required. You might want to see a lawyer.
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Thanks, Cryptodad. Custody is not shared and he may have paid a total of $400 total in child support many many years ago. It just sickens me that this dead-beat drug abuser has to have any say so at this point.
Maybe a lawyer would be good to get, but I do not have the money.
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You and your son may have to have the recruiter file a waiver so that only you would have to sign. You would have to provide proof that your ex has not been involved in your son's life for (number of) years and that he has not provided support in (number of) years. I don't know what proof you would have to provide. If you were given full custody in the divorce proceedings, then that would take care of it. I don't know how successful you will be in getting the waiver. I know of a few recruiters who have continued to speak with prospective future Sailors in this situation, but they had to wait until they were 18 and could sign for themselves.
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Thank you for your responses.
Lemonwlephant, I reviewed the info in the link you provided, thank you. We were never married, though. I had my son at 16. He's basically been out of his life since I was about 17 1/2. His name is not on the birth certificate, but I suppose there really is no way to prove that I've been the custodial parent. I know there is proof that hasn't paid child support since early 2000s and usually the parent who does not have custody of the child most of the time is required to pay child support. I don't know, I'm trying to be positive and that he can do this one thing for his son, but I definitely awoke to a dark cloud having over me this morning.
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He does NOT have to graduate from high school to sign up for the Delayed Entry Program (DEP).
If your name is the only name on the birth certificate, I don't see there being any need for "dad's" signature on the enlistment papers. If the Recruiter is going to be a bonehead over this, find another Recruiter, preferably a woman.
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His recruiter said that there was an incident that happened a year or two ago where a 17 year old dropped dead from a heart attack during boot camp. Apparently the dad, who was never in the kid's life, sued the Navy claiming he knew nothing about his son joining and all that. So now, according to our recruiter, the Navy is taking it very seriously to ensure that nothing like that happens again.
I think I will take your advice and go in and speak to someone else about it, though. Doesn't hurt anything to do that.
Thank you:-)
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Pre-emptive strike: Threaten "dad' with a law suit for the price of potential lost GI Bill college benefits. If he is going to deny your son a free college education, tell him he has to pay. Or just sign the consent form.
http://douglaswhaley.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-write-effective-le...
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The male recruit who died on 7 May 2008 of apparent cardiac arrest was 19. The male recruit who died on 11 January 2012 of complications due to undiagnosed diabetes was 19. The female recruit who died on 10 February 2012 due to complications of pneumonia was also 19. Those are the only deaths of recruits at the RTC in recent history so I must respectfully submit that the recruiter is not telling the truth.
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