Female submariners

[MommaK]

My daughter has been considering ITS because all of her other choices have closed for the year. I know that there haven't been any enlisted females on submarines yet, but I would like for her to talk to someone who can give her a realistic picture of what she would be signing on for. Her recruiter was a submariner, but I I feel like he will sugar coat it or leave out important details. Does anyone have any useful information I can give her?

[CryptoDad]

Here's the latest (6/22/15) news: Thirty-eight enlisted women, representing 31 different ratings have been selected to serve aboard USS Michigan (SSGN 727).

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=87792

KINGS BAY, Ga. (NNS) -- With the release of NAVADMIN 142/15 "FY16 Enlisted Women in Submarines Selections", the first group of enlisted female Sailors from across the Navy has been chosen to serve in the U.S. Navy's submarine force.

Rear Adm. Charles "Chas" Richard, commander, Submarine Group 10 and Enlisted Women in Submarines Task Force Commander, said the interest to apply was impressive.

"We couldn't be more pleased with the amount of interest shown by enlisted women in wanting the opportunity to serve in the undersea warfare domain. It's an exciting time in the submarine force, as we continue to move forward in shaping the future of our force, drawing from the best pool of talent possible."

A strong response fleetwide was received in the call for enlisted female Sailors applying for conversion into submarine force ratings. Applications from women representing 31 different ratings from shore and sea commands worldwide were received for the initial application period to fill four chief petty officer (E7 paygrade) and 34 rating conversion positions in the paygrades of E6 and below across the two crews of the USS Michigan (SSGN 727). Michigan is one of the Navy's Ohio-class guided-submarines homeported in Bangor, Washington.

Sailors from nearly every community throughout the Navy applied and the selections represented this diverse group of applicants, including junior Sailors who enlisted under the Professional Apprenticeship Career Tracks (PACT) program. The skills and experience they are bringing with them into the submarine force will set the foundation for excelling in their new ratings.

Based on the number of applications, the selection process was competitive and used an objective review and scoring of each application. Selections were made based on the Sailor's performance in their current rating, the Sailor's desired submarine rating assignment, the needs of the ship to fill billets of planned rotations where appropriate, and lastly the needs of the Navy for rating community health, both in the old and new ratings. Applications were scored on performance evaluations, warfare qualifications, commanding officer endorsements, sea service time, physical readiness testing, and similarity of current rating to desired submarine rating.

"There were many exceptional candidates who we were unable to select in this rotation simply because we did not have enough positions open on the first two crews." said Capt. Rod Hutton, deputy commander for the Enlisted Women in Submarines Task Force, "These fully qualified Sailors have been placed on the alternate list and will automatically be considered when we select the next group in continuing to grow opportunities for women to serve in the submarine force. We look forward to reviewing their records again, as well as those of Sailors who want to add their names to the mix this summer and fall."

Each Sailor will be contacted and provided the opportunity to update their application as they continue to excel in their careers today. For example, a Sailor selected as an alternate may have received her best evaluation of her career after submitting her initial application for the first cohort. She will now have the opportunity to add that stellar evaluation to her existing application.

With the Sailors having been identified, they will now undergo the standard submarine medical screening process. After they have cleared medical screening, they will begin the training pipeline with Basic Enlisted Submarine School (BESS) in Groton, Connecticut. Sailors who applied to change ratings will also be provided the technical training through "A" schools and possibly "C" schools to prepare them for their new assignment.

These selections are only the first step in a long-term plan approved by the CNO to integrate the submarine force and provide opportunities for women in the Navy to serve in all types of submarines in support of all missions in the undersea warfare domain. The next window for applications will open in July 2015, and will be announced via a separate NAVADMIN. The second group of enlisted female submarine conversions will be assigned to another Ohio-class guided-missile submarine, USS Florida (SSGN 729), homeported in Kings Bay, Georgia.

For more news from Commander, Submarine Force, Atlantic, visit www.navy.mil/local/sublant/.

[MommaK]

Most of what I have read has said they go down for 90 days and then will be in port for about 120 days. Is this really how it goes? Are the women going to have separate sleeping quarters and bathrooms on the sub? Do they go into port other than their homeport? Is there a possibility of seeing other parts of the world like there would be on a ship? These are the main questions that I have been able to pull off the top of my head. TIA

[Anti M]

Two different types of subs, two answers.  The schedule you posted sounds like the big boomers, not the fast attacks.  I really can't say, my submariner is on a fast attack, and his wife only lets me know when he is coming and going after the fact.  Lots of secrecy around subs.

Fast attacks are the ones who make port calls, boomers, not so much.  The ones in the article are larger subs, so more privacy for the women.  Not much though.  

[William in Nashua]

Those were not enlisted women on the Wyoming they were female officers.

[LeslieNCNavyMom]

Hello! My daughter has also been considering ITS.  She passed MEPS in early June and accepted the IT position and was told that she would be leaving for boot camp in January but last week her recruiter called and asked her if she wanted to leave within the next few weeks.  She told him "yes" of course and we are just waiting for a call hoping she will be going sooner to boot camp.  Her recruiter told her to let the people at A school know she was interested in ITS. 

[MommaK]

I may be wrong but I didn't think they could switch to ITS that late. I thought that whatever they go in as they are stuck with for at least 2 years. She has been waiting for IT to open up but is willing to take ITS if it comes up first. She is starting to get discouraged because she has given 6 different ratings that she would take but all have been filled.