This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

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FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by partyofseven on July 2, 2020 at 10:10am

Good Morning Ladies and welcome to all of our new moms,

We are glad you are here. Come and introduce yourselves and let us know where you are at in the roller coaster ride of emotions of boot camp.

The first couple of weeks are hard but try to stay busy is the trick. Start writing letters now and number them so when you get the form letter you can send them off right away. There is a lot of information on here that explains the whole process. belovedbyHim's blog is really good. Let us know if you any questions and someone will be able to help you.

Letters should be coming today since Thursday's are letter days. Thursday's was mine. Keep those ringers on loud and your phone with you at all times. You don't want to miss those calls.

Comment by partyofseven on July 2, 2020 at 4:46am

Hey belovedbyHim- Thank you so much for posting and sharing. I did not know that about what happened when they cleaned up the group. I have wondered why some groups were not as active as others. I learned something today. I always look around here first before I look on fb. Thanks for the infor. How are you? It was good to see you on here.

ellen0502- thank you so much for posting. Hope your doing well. 

Comment by ellen0502 on July 2, 2020 at 2:08am

Sorry for the delay!

Here are the PIR groups for the month of July and August. If PIR ceremonies begin during July of August the current group will be split by TGs. It is fairly safe to assume until travel restrictions for the Sailors in Great Lakes are lifted, actual PIR ceremonies with guests will not happen.

PIR: July 2020

      July 2, 2020 TG 34 7 Divisions (211 -217)

      July 10, 2020 TG 35 8 Divisions (219 - 226)

      July 17, 2020 TG 36 12 Divisions (227 - 238)

      July 24, 2020 TG 37 12 Divisions (239 - 246, 812 - 815)

      July 31, 2020 TG 38 12 Divisions (247 - 256, 816, 817)

PIR: August 2020

      August 6, 2020 TG 39 12 Divisions (257 - 268)

      August 13, 2020 TG 40 12 Divisions (269 - 280)

      August 20, 2020 TBA

      August 27, 2020 TBA

Comment by belovedbyHim on July 2, 2020 at 2:01am

Samantha -- My Sailor is a Seabee and he was waiting to class up for nearly 3 months! (Talk about your hurry up and wait!!!)  They did chores, stood watches, he spent a lot of time at the retirement Veterans home visiting with older Seabees!  He clipped grass by hand and pulled weeds with a screwdriver.  They did earn off base privileges quicker but then when they started class they were back to square 1, No Civies and no off base for a few weeks.  Then there was Thanksgiving followed soon after by Christmas Stand Down so he was home for that Christmas (one of 2 since he joined 7 years ago) for a week and 1/2 then back for the second week and 1/2 of break while the other sailors went home, then back for the last week of classes, graduation and he flew out to his first duty station overseas.

So there is a lot of... "Hurry up and wait" and "This is the plan until it isn't".  The Key phrase here is Semper Gumby! 
I do suggest checking the FB pages. They may be more active for your group but don't give up hope here.  Keep posting an invite others to join you on this site too just so that other new moms won't be left in the dark like you were. 
I do know that several years back this site was taken offline for a bit of clean up and we lost a lot of members either because they thought the page was defunct forever so they moved to FB and never looked back or they were no longer connected to the Navy and didn't come looking for support.  That has resulted in a lot of orphan pages but since we are all volunteers you get out of it what you put into it in most cases.
I hope this gives you an idea of what he's facing.

Comment by partyofseven on July 2, 2020 at 12:18am

Good Evening ladies and welcome to all of our new moms.

We have some more new moms joining and that is awesome. Welcome to our group. This is a great place to be. There is a lot of good information on here and the ladies are on are great. 

I'm going to have to post earlier I think cause of the time difference sometimes. Lol

Luci- How are you? I am sorry that I missed your question. And yes no worries it's ok to ask again. I would have answered you but I was at work. Let me know if you have any more questions that I can help you with. 

Northwoodsmom-I am so happy to hear the news. You had been on my mind today so it was good that you had posted and let us know what was happening. Continued prayers for you and your family.

phoenixmom- that is good. Traditions are always important. To me it feels like they are close to us as we are celebrating and carrying on what we did together as a family. I think to cook out and have a little fireworks at night for my grandson. :) Prayers for you and your family.

ZanesGma- that is right. They didn't extend boot camp so that was good. I always like to verify to make sure before I say something as well. Lol Thanks for posting that.

ellen0502- No worries. We know you will post when you can. Thanks for everything you do for us. Hope you are doing well.

Samantha, Hey, how are you? It is good to hear from you. Hope everything has been ok. How has he been doing? Is there any more groups on here that pertain to IS? How about fb? Do you do facebook? I know they have a lot of groups on there. If you are check into that. Mine will be going to the green side with the Marines and he will be on a Marine base so check into that other marine base as well. It can't hurt that's what I always say.  :)

As for A school mine was only in holding for about a week and half. They have to wait until their class fills up. They studied and had chores they had to do around the base, they did community events, helped out. He really enjoyed it. Hopefully yours will to. 

No problem and no question is ever dumb. Have a nice evening.

Till tomorrow ladies. God Bless.

Comment by Chipmunk on July 1, 2020 at 11:35pm

Hi Samantha, Good to hear from you!! I don't know anything about IS - but I will share what I know from the Nuke school. We have three different rates that head to SC for Nuke school. Each class has an avg of about 32 sailors in it. Generally, there are some sailors who get to Nuke school and there is not a slot yet for them in their rate, so they are in INDOC. It is sort of a hold, but they are actually doing things all day long. My son listened to stories and comments by upper level enlisted who gave examples of what life was like in the fleet. They worked on paperwork that needed to be completed and then they were given chores or tasks to do, as well as they also started working on their UIs (Under Instructions) where they learned how and qualified to stand various watches around the Nuke school. I don't know that hold is exactly the same for all A schools, but I would say it is still just an interim until there are enough sailors for a class of instruction. 

Comment by Samantha on July 1, 2020 at 10:42pm

Good Evening Ladies!
My son Graduated Mid May and left for A school. I joined the IS group but no one is active in that group. Are there only IS in Dam Neck? Are there any other Navy schools there? My son has mentioned The Marines has a fire school but I think only IS A & C school for Navy. Please correct me!
I just didn’t know who to ask what happens if they get on hold during A school? Just some uncharted waters. 
I’m guessing it’s just a wait and see kind of thing?

Thanks for any insight!

Comment by Chipmunk on July 1, 2020 at 10:23pm

Good Evening - I have an update on the PIR groups for July. - Ellen0502 has been having some computer issues and not everything is as easy to do on a mobile device. So, please continue to be patient and she will get them up as soon as she is able.  

Ellen0502 - glad to hear that all is well otherwise.

 

Comment by Chipmunk on July 1, 2020 at 9:40pm

ZanesGma - Thank you! that is approximately what I was recalling. It seems like the 2 week quarantine is adding to your time of silence, but then it is about the same time frame as we had prior to quarantine time, yet, most of them are still graduating in about 8 weeks vs 10 weeks!! Interesting.!

Comment by ZanesGma on July 1, 2020 at 9:20pm

Chipmunk -  we received my SR form letter at the beginning of his fourth week from his ship date (which includes 14 days in quarantine) and then we received our first long phone call approximately 12 days after form letter came in which was a Saturday. 

 
 
 

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