This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

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FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by Jennifer on March 6, 2010 at 11:48am
So pissed that I missed my son's call. I'm sure the RDC knew that some recruits would be spinning their wheels trying to call home at 7 am on a Saturday morning. I just find it unbelievable that they would choose that kind of torture. This is the first time I've been really upset since he left 5 weeks ago.
Comment by arlene40 on March 5, 2010 at 8:32pm
Susie, don't feel bad at your up and down feelings. I have three grandchildren in the service.. All three were home for Christmas. My grand-daughter, in the Navy had to leave right after Christmas (she has a 2 year old son my daughter is helping raise) she is assigned to the James T Williams ship and right now she is in Norfolk, then my oldest Grandson, in the US Coast Guard had to leave the 3rd of January and I went saw him off, and then another grandson that I had always been so close to had to check in the recruit center on Jan 12th. I went and spent that whole day with him, oh we had so much fun visiting and goodbyes to a lot of people, just anywhere he wanted to go, then checked him in, I went the next day with my daughter and my son went with us to say good by watching them leave the base here headed for the airport. Now this was where it was rough. I took lots of pictures. They all got on the bus and I walked up beside the bus just to see where he was sitting... well a little closer and closer to the door and when I got even with the door there he sat the first seat, and he begin to wave and hollow at me, MeeMaw, MeeMaw, I love you... waving with everything in him and the boy sitting next to him joined in leaning over the bus bannister there and waving. I took pictures and waved and screamed, I love you... I wanted to go up and grab him off the bus... but of course I didn't for I knew this was a great decision for him...not for me but for him... The bus started up, the driver closed the door with me standing 15 ft from the door and they started off, I watched took pictures, the bus turned to the left, and then on to another stop there on the bus and turned right.... and there they went... I turned from watching the bus waving as hard as I could and headed back to the car, my son was standing there, he turned toward the car and he was boohooing and I was crying hysterically and could not stop.. My poor daughter had been tearing all the time we were there but we all made it to our cars. We had planned on stopping to eat at the Burger King on the base, but I told my son, no all I needed was a glass of ice. My daughter and her two other boys went on in and as she sat down a sign by the booth... said something about ... we don't allow whinning around here or something like that...cute poster picture. My son drove me back to his house and my grandson had made it to the airport. He called me at my sons house and he told me to tell my son that he saw him crying, and that he was a whimp, that he was looking at a real man through that window... We all laughed and enjoyed the two minutes I had to talk to him and he was then catching the plane headed to Great Lakes. Well, I left my sons, went on by my daughters and we all cried together... I could not stop crying- this went on for two weeks, had regular eye checkup, failed eye test because I had cried too much, my teary eyes turned into a full fledged virus/cold so runny nose, cough, sore throat from coughing, doctor, on my lounge chair for 2 weeks except for bathroom breaks, finally here it is one week till graduation, my nose has stopped running, I am feeling pretty good, actually got out and did some running today, ate dinner at mexican restaurant, and went with my husband for his annual check up for driving etc... I am feeling good... I actually had been so upset over my grandchildren leaving that I made myself sick...so at almost 70 years old, I cannot let that happen again.. I am just planning on plenty of traveling... but then it cost so much to travel... I am so thankful the day my grandson left, I explained to him that I might not get to come to the graduation, he said oh yes, MeeMaw I will make sure you are there. My daughter said the same thing... so they are taking me with them and I was on the list he made and I am so thankful. I love Him so much as well as my other grandchildren... Now my other grandson is in school in Yorktown, VA and will graduate the middle of April..then he has orders already to go to Alameno, CA. My grandson graduating from GL is going to San Diego, but yet they will be 488 miles away from each other. My grand-daughter will be leaving whenever for the Middle East seas...So don't feel bad... I am proud and I am sure they made a good decision. I must adjust my mind to accept the fact what they are doing. I want them home....
Comment by juls55 on March 5, 2010 at 8:09pm
I wonder if anybody knows anything about OCS RI the class of 14-10 charlie. My husband is in that class!! i havent heard from him in a long time.
Comment by maussie64 on March 5, 2010 at 7:26pm
Tammy, I don't know if she is GnG. Her PIR date is Apr.23. How soon can i find out?
Comment by diannep on March 5, 2010 at 3:26pm
Susie1215: It's that maternal thing we have going on! It just never turns off...and just when has your son ever been away where you can't reach him, you can't find out about him, and you know that there is lots of yelling going on where he is??? HA! The emotional roller coaster is so normal....just remember that you will have the biggest smile on your face when you finally talk to him or get one of his letters. It will wipe those tears right away!
Comment by diannep on March 5, 2010 at 3:24pm
Susan1: Probably a good idea to maybe keep your ex up on what you find out on this site relating to your son just so he knows. Maybe by e-mail so he has it in writing? But I still don't understand why he wouldn't think you would have wanted to know that your son called???? Surely you (not him) will get "the box," and the form letter, right? Make sure to write your phone number in every letter you send your son :-) !
Comment by LindainIvorVA on March 5, 2010 at 3:22pm
hi.. my daughter got there 16th.. i got call that nite at midnite.. other brief calls in order for her sec. clearance for her job.. no letter at all.. just hang in. have you luked at the bootcamp website. i was so upset i couldnt dwnload it. then added foxfire and then i got it... try that! you'll be so proud! they so busy..
Comment by diannep on March 5, 2010 at 11:54am
stlgrl59: Not sure where your hotel is. But if you are on I-94, you get off at 137/Buckley Rd. You head east on Buckley. You will see some signs for the Naval Base. You will go about 2 miles,and see the Great Lakes Recruit Command Center on your right. That is where you go. Leave early if you are driving because the line of cars gets long. One man told me he was in line by 5:30 am. Are you sure your hotel doesn't have cab service to the ceremony? Many of them do. No matter where you are staying, ask the front desk for directions too. They are very familiar with graduation since it is done every week of the year. You can also googlemap it. Good luck!
Comment by arlene40 on March 5, 2010 at 10:25am
My grandson stated in his last letter that they were very busy, class work exams, and drills etc of course he said they were practicing a lot, he is the conductor of the band. But he told his mom that he did not know when they would get to call again but he did know that if they do not pass any of the test they are taking they are allowed to call home immediately. I guess that is to let you know right away that they will not be graduating with the class. So yes sometimes, no news is good news.. I pray for all of them that they will all stay calm, their minds rested where they will pass everything...
Comment by Lion55's mom on March 5, 2010 at 9:49am
Donna, we don't have a choice! Just know that no news is good news and your SR, Seaman Recuit will call you at the three week mark.
 
 
 

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