This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

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FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by TexasMomof2 on September 7, 2009 at 4:36pm
Hi all! My son's PIR was on last Thursday and I wanted to share something that happened to me. The day after PIR, we arrived on base to pick him up. We couldn't find him as there are many many Sailors also waiting for their families and they're all wearing the same uniform.

I walked through the parking lot and stepped up onto the curb to walk inside the Nex to look for him. As I stepped up onto the curb, I heard "Hi Mom!" I looked over in the direction of where it came from and there was a group of Sailors standing about 5 feet from me.. I thought to myself "Isn't it funny how when someone yells "Mom," all of us Moms turn and look?" I kept walking.

I again heard "Hi Mom!" I looked over again at this same group and I saw one of them looking at me and smiling. I thought "ahhhh, he thinks I look like his Mom.....he must be really missing her." I smiled back and kept walking.

And then, someone jumped in front of me blocking my path and they said "Mom!!!" I looked at the face of this Sailor who was blocking my way and it was MY SON!

Oh....my.....gosh. Now, when you hear that your child really changes in boot camp, it's TRUE! LOL! I still laugh every time I think of it. Keep in mind that he's lost 10 pounds. Not a lot of weight but he didn't need to lose weight. He's 6'3" and weighed 200 pounds going in. He's now defined even more so muscularly - he's a rescue swimmer and his division was special ops. But, the 10 pounds he lost is mostly in his face, it's really really thin. And, the day before he left for Boot Camp, we got him a new pair of glasses and I haven't had time to get used to them and he had on his glasses when I didn't recognize him.

Poor thing, he had this really nervous look on his face like "what's wrong with her?" And the Sailors standing with him were looking at me like "what's wrong with J's Mom?" I was pretty embarrassed and couldn't apologize enough!! We laughed about it later.

The last day we were there, I saw the same thing happen to another Mom who was parked next to us and standing outside her car. Her son walked all the way up to her before she recognized him and she was looking right at him as there weren't any other Sailors there. All of sudden she said, "Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry!" It made me feel better - somewhat.
Comment by TexasMomof2 on September 6, 2009 at 6:28pm
Woohoo, just came home from my son's PIR which was Thursday - how wonderful it was to see him!

Send eye contacts 1 to 2 weeks before PIR - this is what I was told by Purple Pig.

Today we were waiting on some of my son's fellow Sailors - we were taking them to the mall. We were inside the Nex (the store which has misc stuff) and there was a division of brand new recruits. How can I tell? Their heads are freshly shaved. They wear sweats that are Navy blue and gold. Their names were penciled on a piece of paper that was stuck in the back of their sweats. And they were all purchasing toiletries. I just wanted to go hug all of them! They were doing a great job standing at attention, eyes ahead, and patiently waiting while each recruit was inside the store purchasing their items.
Comment by Margaret_ProudTexasMomof2Sailors on September 6, 2009 at 6:20pm
debbie, there are two good sites you might want to check out. One is DEPPERS in, but not yet and also the sub group, leavin for boot camp in Sept.
My first son just left in Aug. and my next one leaves in Nov. If anyone knows what you are going through, we do! These sites are a true life saver. I felt secure and that I was not going crazy, what I went through was normal. We are sending our babies out into the unknown. This is now the longest I have ever gone without contact with my son. He has only been gone for two weeks, but it feels like forever! I am so ready to see him. He will look so funny! He has long hair for the past 6 years, so I might not recognize him. lol
Take care, and know that you are not alone; we are here for you.
Texas mom, thanks for letting us know about PIR. Thanks also for the report of the new recruits. One might have been my son. He's only been there for ten days. I like to know that one of us is keeping an eye out for our babies! I too am a proud Texas mom of two!
Comment by Margaret_ProudTexasMomof2Sailors on September 5, 2009 at 6:09pm
I'm hoping to get some soon. I mailed a letter today and said that if he doesn't write me, I would go and get every card that plays goofy music and mail them one at a time! lol ;0
Comment by Margaret_ProudTexasMomof2Sailors on September 5, 2009 at 5:47pm
I was outside whenmy mailcarrier came by. He said he had nothing for me. I told him to bring me something, that my son was in BC and I wanted letters from him. He said he understood and that he was in the army. He took the letter I was mailing and said that he would keep my son in his prayers.
Maybe Tues, maybe not. It's hard, but "No news is good news"
Comment by Margaret_ProudTexasMomof2Sailors on September 5, 2009 at 2:57pm
belenc, I couldn't wait for the form letter, so I called my son's recruiter. They should have it about 2-3 days after the recruit gets to GL. Good thing I did, I just got his form letter yesterday!
Comment by Cindy on September 5, 2009 at 2:52pm
Hi Belenc,
You'll receive a form letter from your son during the first week...the delay in receiving the letters really seems to vary. Since it's been a few days you should be able to talk to your son's recruiter and get his ship and division. My son's recruiter was VERY helpful and accomodating, I've heard others aren't quite that way. So, good luck, but they can definitely provide you that information as soon as they're assigned.

I just brought in my mail, hoping for a real letter and nothing yet...ughhh! I'm guessing/hoping this Sunday they'll (div 363) get a chance to write so we'll all get updates next week. Now I need to go make myself busy with something to keep my mind occupied with something else.
Comment by Tanner's Mom on September 5, 2009 at 9:02am
Star - hang in there! I was misserable until I recieved the first call...I think we all are like that. I just received my first call this past Wednesday....It will make you feel so much better to hear his voice. Just keep writing to your son and look for mail on the third full week. They write and send mail out on Sundays and I have received two letters now...they always arrive on Thursday here in Georgia. I don't know where you live but Thursday is THE DAY here at my house. You will be in that third week before you know it!
Comment by Margaret_ProudTexasMomof2Sailors on September 5, 2009 at 12:07am
Patti, I was told that pictures would be ok. I sent one of my son with the 200 lbs.hog he shot this summer. Will he be ribbed for it? I have been telling everyone white envelopes only and no cards with noise and no food. If he gets ribbed for the pictures, I will feel so bad!
Comment by Marty Mc on September 4, 2009 at 10:01pm
Welcome Brett's Mom. I don't think they need a phone card for the first call. I was told it would come to let us know our son got there OK. It did, but it was about 3 days after he got there! The good news was, he talked to us for a couple of minutes before he had to go. The subsequent phone calls from him have unfortunately been when we were gone, so I have yet to talk to him again. I do have his message on the recorder! :-) He sounds much better than the first call, but even that he sounded better than I would have expected. My son left here 8/5. Time flies. Yes, it does. Once you get the first "real" letter, it just seems to change everything.
 
 
 

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