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Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by belovedbyHim on July 14, 2020 at 1:41am

LadyBluefire -- No the Navy will not replace uniforms.  Some other Sailors will likely offer their older uniforms but all that will have to be replaced by the sailors themselves.  (Remember they bought their initial uniforms too-- from their "Uniform Allowance")  There will likely be many opportunities for folks to donate to replace items that were lost in the fire. It's a BIG Navy family.

Comment by Gigi on July 13, 2020 at 7:22pm

Kellyrene and Nickmoms - were you able to check your local MEPS, if they have live swear in on Facebook? Not sure who but  one mom last week seen her son. I can look back in April for my son, it’s still there. 

Party - my son got his phone back  as they prepare to leave BC got a text at around 0600. It was just HI! Text him back  (100x messages) and never replied. FaceTime around 1300 (we talk for a minute in a corner, looks like a receiving room and gave me a shhhh signal) as he went inside with the rest. Then I was just watching like a CCTV only with audio for about 30mins. LOL. Heard them how excited and happy they were. They were over “Gaga” with coffee and skittles! I heard them - I want one and share your skittles? Anymore skittles? While some are  taking selfies. Another FaceTime around 12midnight as he settling in into his room, again talk...then hold as like CCTV with audio as I watch him put up his rack and make his bed and clothes etc..

To be honest with y’all I was so careful to ask how he feels and how he really is, I want him to open up himself. I watch him closely how he change or not. I wasn’t sure. But he called again early 0500 as he walk outside asking him to FaceTime told me he’s not even supposed to have his phone when in uniform. Then hanged up on me .. as I was carefully watch him the night before vs. a minute of regular call confirmed that my old baby is  back. 

Same ship, same bed up to the last night in BC, they flew privately Monday, start preparing to leave at 0330.  (This is for GC A school) 

Comment by Kellyrene on July 13, 2020 at 6:18pm

Partyofseven- thank you so much for that verse. School today was a nightmare after overstepping mandates suck the life out sports for students.  Practically grown boys/girls crying about it and parents wondering how this is going to affect scholarship money. I know some people say it's just sports, but if you are in education,  you know that the ability to play can sometimes be the difference in a child  getting by and child trying really  hard to make good grades to keep eligibility.  It's  what  motivates them. Judging from the class of 2020 it's going to hurt these students even more. That verse was just what I needed to put me back in my place and let me know the lord is in charge,  not me. 

On a happier note, my SR should have 1 more day of quarantine!!!!

Blessings to everyone!

Comment by Kellyrene on July 13, 2020 at 6:05pm

Nicksmom- I'm not to far ahead of you.  My son shipped on June 30. By my count he should have 1 more day of quarantine. One of the last minute things we decided to do was have breakfast together with family and friends at his favorite diner. We got there early so we could sit and relax and talk and cut up and do all the things we normally do as a family.  And the biggest blessing was his van transportation was an hour late, so we then hung out in the parking lot of the recruiter office.  I have never been so happy for something to be so late. Just take things in stride. You will cry and everyone will understand and it will be ok. My SR left one month after high school graduation and he burned up the pavement every day in between. But he was so excited for this journey to begin and that is what has helped me cope.  I will be praying for you and your family.  

Comment by partyofseven on July 13, 2020 at 1:40pm

LadyBluefire-  On the cell phones it still depends. Their have been some moms that have received calls right away and then silence. 

Chipmunk- I think it's one of those variables because I have heard both they got their cell phones right away and then they had to wait until they got on the bus. Everything changes so fast due to this COVID. 

We do know that you will hear from them but when exactly right away after PIR or on the way to A school. And then the silence comes again until they get settled and can call you again. 

 For you moms that just had your SR's become Sailor's when did you get your first call? 

belovedbyHim- That could be information you could include in the COVID timeline. I know that would be helpful as well.  :)

Comment by Chipmunk on July 13, 2020 at 1:25pm

LadyBluefire - when my son arrived at his A school (that is frequently evacuated during hurricane season) it was strongly recommended that they have renters insurance. I think a veteran mom I met at PIR also told me the same thing, because their uniforms are expensive if they have to replace them. So, from that information, I do not believe the Navy replaces uniforms, but it could depend on the circumstance. Either way, waiting for reimbursement takes time.

As for cell phones, I am only speculating, but I believe they are being given their phones once they are on their transport to their A school. In the past, if a sailor, was held over at RTC for whatever reason (and I can only say for Nukes) they were sent to THU and that was not at RTC with other SRs. If you were there for PIR and your sailor was in THU before being shipped out, they were allowed to have their cell phones. If they were flying out over the weekend, they stayed in their ship at RTC and were bussed from there to the airport and we gave them their phones when we meet them at the airport. 

Now, the phones are not shipped home and I believe they were being given to the sailors when they boarded the buses before heading to the airport. My assumption is they are doing the same thing now. They are not giving them their phones back until they are actually headed to A school. I don't have any definite, and I don't know if that means they are holding them at RTC or if they have moved to THU. But no phones mean no communication - which we all get use to - because "Loose lips sink ships" 

Comment by LadyBluefire on July 13, 2020 at 12:59pm

welcome new moms!


partyofseven - I think you asked about me and Jacksonville - I am about 2 hours south of Jacksonville.

mamabear - my husband's answer to red and green is Christmas, lol - but Hatch green chile for the win

Kellyrene - my hubby always went to the lake when he lived in NM, he had a jet ski, well we have one still but it hasn't seen water in 15 years. It needs to go but hubby holds on to it, lol.

beloved - my friend whose son shipped out 6/1 and she got her first letters on 7/3 got her first official call home yesterday 7/12. She had a call before the letters but it was security as he is in the CT field.

Chipmunk - are you saying that due to secrecy some sailors won't get their stuff (cell phone) until they are at A school?

So, if a uniform is destroyed on the ship the sailors have to replace it out of their own pocket? The Navy doesn't have insurance? I am talking to my husband and he said no way the Navy won't reimburse (or they should reimburse). But personal items, he understands that would be on the sailors. I will encourage my kids ot get fireproof boxes..I have their birth certificates...they have their SS cards..

Comment by Chipmunk on July 13, 2020 at 11:38am

Congratulations to all of our new sailors last week!! Remember to update your profile on your My Page and change your setting from In BC to Enlisted!! 

Comment by Chipmunk on July 13, 2020 at 11:37am

FYI - For those of you with SRs who will be headed away from GL to their A school after PIR (or who are sailors and may be waiting to leave) - It is very likely that they may not be given their phones back right away. I don't know anything for certain, but if they have not made contact with you since their "I'm a sailor" call then hold fast to the "No News is Good News."  Some of the groups, especially large groups of sailors such as Nuke rates, are being transported privately so they do not have to be quarantined upon arrival at A school. We protect our sailors by not sharing when they are traveling, just as when they are sent out on an underway or deployment. So if your sailor told you a day they were to leave, it is still best to not be specific when posting here. Just as if they were flying out of GL, their specific orders are for your eyes/ ears only. We just knew that in general they usually left the day or so after PIR. - Now there are many variables. 

I can't necessarily help with the other ratings and those traveling to their A school, but if you have a Nuke traveling and you have not heard from them, be sure to check in on the Nuke Moms page. We will help you out over there. 

 

Comment by partyofseven on July 13, 2020 at 10:50am

Galatians 5:13

 
 
 

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