This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.
FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:
Choose your Username. For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either). Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username. While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!
Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!
Join groups! Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself! Start making friends that can last a lifetime.
Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak
All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018.
Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)
Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC
...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.
Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind. In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships." OPSEC is everyone's responsibility.
DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.
DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."
Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:
**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.
FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:
RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021
Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.
Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.
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To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!" To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"
This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)
Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it . You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!
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The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).
Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:
Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home
This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.
BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE
New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training
Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times
Are there any official RTC sites?
Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.
https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.
You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.
RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)
Can recruits take anything to BC with them?
Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes. (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)
What will the first day be like at BC?
See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.
How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?
See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.
I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?
Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at
RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works.
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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page. It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.
RTC Facebook Page - Graduation
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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?
The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT). The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.
The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets. ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**
UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)
The Expected timeline will look like this:
Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call
Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)
Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week)
Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training
Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).
Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.
Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA
Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.
Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created.
USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).
How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?
Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.
If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.
**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**
Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.) I'll post it in a few different places.
Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022
SARGE'S MEET & GREET - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022
Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.
Who can attend PIR?
RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021
Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.
ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.
GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions.
ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!
The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.
If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088
Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)
Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.
The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***
Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending.
Driving on to base.
Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.
See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.
What will happen PIR weekend?
See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend
http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.
S.O. Contract:
Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.
It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)
Interested:
Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.
(Click on the highlighted links.)
Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)
Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)
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Lemonelephant-- So good to see you posting on here!!
New Adventures-- The week begins at different times for different Divisions. It is 5(ish) days from the day they arrive to get through Processing. If everything goes well they will start training day 1 the next day. Saturday and Sunday do not count as training days although some PT may (Will) take place on those days. So if your recruit left home on Tuesday, for example, Pday 1 will be Wednesday, P2- Thursday, P3- Friday, Saturday and Sunday will be P-hold days, P4 will be Monday and P5 will be Tuesday. If they do not need to wait for more recruits then Training Day (TD) 1 will be on the 2nd Wednesday since arriving. This process will continue till PIR. Some recruits will finish training and have made the "I'm a Sailor" call and will have extra days to wait with limited training till their PIR which is nearly always on a Friday (There are a few exceptions when it's on a Wednesday) So if you take your recruits departure day-- You can guestimate where they are in their training.
Please note** They can have P-hold days which you may not know about until you get the "I'm still alive" call usually in Week 3. So if you think your call is late please assume that they had hold days. The same is true for receiving the form letter which is normally filled out on TD1 or TD2. If it seems to be taking longer they may have had P-hold days. I know it's hard but please trust that they are ok unless they call home and tell you otherwise. Your recruits are doing what they wanted to do and they are in good hands! You have us to vent to and that is why we are here!! You got this Moms!!!
Hi Chipmunk- Thank you so much. Will let you know what happens. Much love and blessings.
Hi Partyofseven - I will add your son's order selection to my prayer list!!
New Adventures - Glad to hear you received your call!! Some will come on Sat. some on Sun. and maybe other times, but Lemonelephant and Ellen0502 are the knowledgeable ones there. My son had told me they would get another call at about 6 weeks and so it was around the same time as the one on the 3 week call, but his division called on a Saturday afternoon.
Yes, sometimes being on this site is helpful and at other times, it is hard to not compare your experience with others!
Welcome New Adventures and Tracey.
New Adventures that is awesome that you got to talk to your SR. My first phone call I was so happy just to hear his voice.
Hi Lemonelephant-it was good to see you on hear. Hope you are doing well.
AntiM-Enjoy yourself and talk to you when you come back. Be safe.
Welcome sjmom-it's good to have you here. Welcome to all the newcomers. This is a great place to learn and make friends.
Phoenximom-hope yesterday was a great day for you and the family. My sailor will pick his new orders tomorrow. Please pray for us that he gets what he wants. He wants to go to the green side so I pray that he gets to come on our side of the world.Thank you in advance for your prayers.
Have a great rest of the day ladies.
With in minutes of hitting send the phone rang. He sounded good.
I am a happy and relieved mom.
Thanks for the input about parking. I am relieved and so is my mom.
I feel like I am being a pain but here it goes. I keep seeing people in my son's PIR date have gotten calls but none from him. I also have not seen any from his division. My husband was told by the recruiter on swearing in day to expect a call on week 3. (that was the first time either of us have spoken with a recruiter) To me that would be the end of week 3 or this coming Friday or so. For RTC is week three the beginning of the week and why so many got calls this weekend? Or did some earn an early call?
Having ask this he might not call even if given a chance. I keep the phone will me all the time. I did not go to an event today because it would be to loud and I might not hear the phone ring. He rarely called when away at camps and the like when he was younger. He is grown now so I should not expect different.
This is driving me crazy. I should not have gotten on social and then I would not know anything about calls. And yet.....
NA
Mrs. HoneyLemonTea, thank you for all the info. I greatly appreciate it. So Happy letters/form and calls were coming in.
Mrs. LemonElephant thank you for all the info that was given. Glad to see you online. Well I'm off to the Mariachi celebration, hoping you all have a awesome blessed day!
sjmom, yes, "cohesiveness" is an issue for most divisions as you can see from the comments of Tracey and New Adventure. Most of the recruits figure it out by week 4, but some have problems much longer.
New Adventures, yes, there is handicapped parking in the Parking Garage. Your camera is also fine. See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.
Hi all,
Does anyone know if there is handicapped parking for PIR. I was looking at the maps and it looks like all the parking is fairly far away. I am not sure my mother can walk that far, especially after the ceremony. She has been planning to come and he wants her there.
Also cameras- I know I have lots of time for this. The list includes a "small camera bag" I actually you a hydro pack as a camera bag. Would that be ok? A larger lens ok? My go to for stuff like school play and sports is about 12 inches long plus the camera body itself. I mostly hand carry it and place it on my lap so can go without the bag if I have to. I would find another lens if I have to as well.
Thanks for any advice
NA
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