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Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit - America's Navy and also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:



**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  Still limited to 2 guests maximum.

Specific information on this policy change will be provided in the coming days and weeks.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your support.


RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 7/16/2021**




**UPDATE - 2020**

Due to COVID there is no public PIR. The graduations are on Thursday, and the video of the graduation is posted on RTC's FaceBook on Friday at approx 3pm. Please keep in mind that a division may need to complete additional quarantine during training which will delay their graduation.

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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**LIVE PIR's RESUMING 8/13/2021**  Maximum of 2 guest allowed.  Mask and social distancing is required.  

UPDATE 7/29/2021 YOU ALSO MUST BE FULLY VACCINATED IN ORDER TO ATTEND PIR (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out and They will have lots of information for you. also has items at times. has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in

RTC will stream PIR live at beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change to


Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)


What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.


I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address against those at or Ship/Division--How it Works


**UPDATED 7/29/2021 YOU ALSO MUST BE FULLY VACCINATED IN ORDER TO ATTEND PIR (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).

**UPDATED 7/16/2021**




Posted March 19, 2020

Effective immediately, the U.S. Navy is suspending all Recruit Training Command (RTC), in Great Lakes, IL, and Officer Training Command (OTC), in Newport RI, formal, large-scale graduation ceremonies until further notice as part of its proactive approach to protect our mission and limit the potential spread of COVID 19.

**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation


When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at RTC Friends and Family Brochure October 2017. The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**


(as put together by belovedbyHim)

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1&2
Day 1-14 -- ROM (Restriction of Movement/ Quarantine-- Lots of studying and waiting)

Week 3
Day 15-21 Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)
Day 21-- Complete P days. (Initial PFT & Run)

Week 4- First week of training 
Day 22-- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later

Week 5 -- First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week)

Week 6 -8 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching), Fire Fighting training, Marlinspike (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) and weapons lessons, Confidence chamber( May or may not be happening yet, we don’t know for sure).. Warrior training in here somewhere.

Week 9 & 10 -- Stressful!! They have all their final inspections, PFA, Drills, BS21 and Tests. This is the lead up to the end!!

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

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The following events are NOT  happening due to COVID:

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.



Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 5 pm to 10 pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.


Who can attend PIR?

**UPDATED 7/16/2021**




Your recruit will indicate the names of up to four  TWO guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.


GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at (See

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend and

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by mytidbitz yesterday

Good morning ladies.

Elina, I feel your joy.  We also have 2 more envelopes coming today!  But I think I won't stalk my mailman today and just let him do his job at his pace.  When does your son graduate?

Belovedbyhim - thanks for the info.  I had read the USO would give you passes to stay with your sailor at the airport until he/she flies out.  But I guess that's changed?

Chipmunk - Got it, won't be sending any gift cards.  Too bad we can't send NEX cards. 

partyofseven - The only bumper sticker we have on our car are 2 marathon stickers.  But I realized the bumper sticker she gave us said proud to be a parent of a US Navy Sailor so I'll wait until PIR to then decide if to put it on our car.

Have a great day everyone!

Comment by Chipmunk yesterday

MomofJoseph - Thanks!!! I was probably typing when you posted. It is great to see everyone helping out!

Comment by Chipmunk yesterday

Northwoodsmom - Thanks!!

Elina - Here is the link - 800 and 900 Divisions - Navy For Moms ( - My understanding is they are not having any 800 divisions currently. Those SRs are being integrated in with the other divisions. So when you read through the information look for the 900 division information. It is the honor guard division and they will perform either in the band, choir, honor guard or assist guests at PIR. We have had a couple of other newer members on the group who have / had SRs in a 900 division, one of them just this last week, so they may be able to share more with you.

Here is the PIR live feed information from the BC website. I believe the 900 divisions perform in the 2 PIR groups prior to theirs. - 

Live streaming of our graduations begin at 9 a.m. CST every Friday. Videos will also be available for viewing afterwards as well on our Facebook page at: and our YouTube channel at:​.


Comment by MomofJoseph yesterday

Elina, here is the info about 800 and 900 groups.

Comment by Chipmunk yesterday

BBH - Yes, in the fleet things can go missing as well, especially gift cards and cash. That is true. I was referring to mailing those only to an apartment address if you had one not to the fleet address. Personally, I don't mail gift cards, so I should have been more clear about that, my apologies ladies.

I never had issues with mailing items to my sailor at his schools, however others at the same location did have issues. There was a point when he was in an apartment for Prototype and because of the layout of that apartment, the PO addresses were slightly different than the delivery addresses for FED EX, UPS, etc. The apartment office had given us the wrong postal mailing address and that was a mess!! I even called the local post office down there. You can't deposit a new driver's license in a bank account!! Some things have to go through the postal service.

I am more comfortable mailing to his current apartment address but I still mail only stuff and usually use Priority mailboxes that include insurance coverage. I keep a list of what I do pack so that if I have to make a claim I can.  

Comment by Northwoodsmom yesterday

Elina Hello, I can help a little until on of the more knowledgeable ladies come on. If you go to the top of this page under the list of members(pictures) you will see a bunch of different topics. Half down the list is the 800 and 900 hundred divisions. Just press on it and the information will pop up.  Sorry I can't be more help but I am on my phone and can't copy and paste. Good Luck and congratulations on mail coming.

Comment by Elina yesterday
We're getting mail from my son today!!! I jumped up and down when I saw the email with the pic, then cried with joy a few mintues later.
His return address says Div 902, can someone help me find out information about the 900 divisions on this site?
Comment by Northwoodsmom yesterday

Good morning Ladies, congratulations to all returning from PIR. I just wanted to put my 2 cents in about gift cards. Do not send them in a card or a envelope. We all would like to think everyone that entered the Navy is honest and are of good character but that is not the case. Yes the Navy does their best to try to filter out many of them but many still manage to disguise themselves. Many working in the mailroom are not always of good character. They feel a gift card in a envelope the confiscate the cards and use them for themselves or sell them. Protect Your Sailor and yourself from being a victim. I would send my son gift cards in a care box  sometimes hid in a box of bandaids or inside of socks where they wouldn't be so easy to detect. It is a shame that we can not trust people but that is the world we are living in. Our mama hearts want to give so much to our children which is good just be smart about it.

Comment by belovedbyHim yesterday

gio0525 -- If your SR is staying in GL for A school you will for sure have the weekend (Thursday-Sunday, And they may need the Chit) if they are going elsewhere, You will need and want to be more flexible. They May only have Wednesday, Leaving on Thursday (Less common) or Any other day that weekend.  You will not know till closer to PIR, or maybe not even till after so you will want to be somewhat flexible with your plans for that weekend. 

Yes they do have to know the phone numbers.  We suggest you write them on a slip of paper and have them put it in their wallet which they get to keep when they get to BC. (Just make sure it's black or dark brown)

mytidbitz -- You feel that pride because you are proud!  It's not an easy task they chose and most don't want to do it.  You are right to be proud!  Sadly unless you have a Military ID you cannot buy a NEX Gift Card.  (That has been the bane of Navy Moms everywhere!!) Yes, You are better off to just put the money in her account if you can.  If she's flying out you won't have an opportunity to meet her at the Airport and she can't take anything back to base.  You'll have to wait till she's at A school and Mail it to her there.  If she's staying at GL you can let her go through stuff in your hotel room.  Just an FYI so you don't take a bunch of stuff you just have to take back home again..

partyofseven -- If they are staying at GL for A school, Yes.  If they are flying out to school elsewhere -- NO.
It they are THU on the A school side - yes, on the BC side -- NO.  The BC Side they are not allowed to bring anything that they were not allowed to have during the previous weeks of training, so no Cell Phones, No Civies, Nothing that isn't regulation (Although I have heard of some swapping out undergarments -- Might not be worth the risk though.  All that stuff would need to be mailed to them at A school.)

Chipmunk -- Even in the fleet sometimes gift cards can go missing.  Best to transfer directly all the time.  You can send a card and ask them to let you know when they open it to get their gift if you want to "Surprise" them. I know it feels super impersonal but other than inexpensive things it really is the best option!

Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN yesterday

3rd PIR for December is now listed:

December 3, 2021 TG-01 


December 10, 2021 TG-02 (011, 012, 013, 902)

December 15, 2021 TG-03 (017,019,020,021,903,904)  This is a WEDNESDAY PIR.


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