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Comment by Carol Aileen on October 10, 2009 at 1:00am

hi Jacobs Mom, we just started using a video camera to visit also - you should have seen our dog last night! He heard Aaron's voice and came over to where the computer was sitting, he kept looking like what! where is he! then he licked the monitor! poor puppy misses his boy!

Comment by Pat L. in IL on October 9, 2009 at 7:14pm

Kris, There are 3 phases of Nuke School. 1. "A" school 2. Power School
3. Prototype

Comment by Kris, Stevens mom on October 9, 2009 at 6:35pm

whats the difference between "A" school and power school?

Comment by Anti M on October 9, 2009 at 11:02am

We're on Verizon, in Northern Utah, and it has worked very well for us. Hubby drives truck now, and says Verizon has the best coverage in the strangest places. We even had coverage at Burning Man, in the middle of the desert, very unusual. He once had ATT, but they always messed up his billing. Our texting is blocked, as he doesn't want to deal with it when he's driving. However, I can text my friends who are on either Sprint or T-Mobile by using Twitter from my laptop.

Comment by LLovesmysailor on October 9, 2009 at 10:51am

BLW, We also have Verizon. We kept my son on the family plan even after he got to his sub. It cost $25 for his phone and unlimited text messaging. He sends me a check twice a year for his phone costs. That way he doesn't have to worry about that bill while he's deployed. It works out great for us and for him.

Comment by Anti M on October 9, 2009 at 9:45am

You're talking about RAP, working at the hometown recruiter. Usually cannot happen during holiday leave, they shut down too. Perhaps after A school, but yes, have the paperwork done beforehand. Contact the recruiter for details.

Comment by LLovesmysailor on October 9, 2009 at 9:27am

Gini, When Alex was in the position of possibly going in the hole, he worked with the local recruiter and got 7 free days. They have a specific name for it, but I can't remember what it is at the moment. If he does that, just have him make sure all the paperwork is taken care of at both ends. He needs something from his command and the recruiter has to sign off on it. Otherwise they don't get the time credited to them and don't find out until months later. Hope this helps.

Comment by Mark on October 9, 2009 at 1:38am

I apologize for how complex that post turned out, Gini. Put simply, if a sailor leaves GC fo anything other than a weekend after "A" school, or during the holiday period, they will be charged a day of leave for each day they are gone. If they stay there , in a duty status, they can save their leave for another time. If they stay on base during a shutdown period, they will typically only work when they would have duty, or maybe just a couple hours a day on some sort of "make work" detail. It's possible also, during the holiday shutdwon, that they may be required to take leave for a certain period - I don't really know. I work for the Navy as a civilian, and we have a one week shutdown between Christmas and New Year's where we are required to take leave; we're fortunate though, that as civilians, we don't get charged leave on the actual holiday, or the weekends, unlike when I was active duty Navy.

Comment by Mark on October 9, 2009 at 1:25am

Gini,
The shutdown for the holidays is not "free" time off if they leave GC. There is a difference between "liberty", which is what sailors have on weekends and on a holiday (when they don't have duty), and after normal working hours (again, when they don't have duty) and "leave". When they are on leave, which they are, if they leave their duty station for other than a weekend, they get charged leave for that day, and they earn thirty days of leave a year. With permission, they can go into the hole on leave (sort of like leave on credit, that's paid back), but it means less leave down the line, so they have to consider the trade off. I'm afraid that's just the way it works in the military, similarly to the way time off works with a civilian job. One significant difference between military and civilian life also, is that in the military, if you are on leave either the day before, or the day after a weekend or holiday, leave is also charged for that holiday or weekend period as well. Your son appears to have it correct.

Comment by Anti M on October 9, 2009 at 1:23am

Gini, they earn leave at 2.5 days each month. Since the nuke program is so long, perhaps others did get enough on the books to do both. They are sometimes allowed the option of borrowing leave forward, also known as "going in the hole". The problem with this negative leave balance is it feels like it takes forever to catch up to zero before they accrue more days. I know that other schools encourage them to go home during the stand down, even though they must borrow days to do so. I don't know the policy for Goose Creek, but I suspect it is the same.

The one thing my master chief dad stressed to me when I enlisted was "never go in the hole on your leave". But each sailor has to weigh their options for themselves.

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