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Comment by elizabeth77(USS SAN FRANCISCO) on October 3, 2011 at 5:35pm

I appreciate all insights.  I would like this forum to be real.  THe first two suicides happened when my son had just recently arrived and one of the sailors lived right next to him.  Something I didn't understand until mush later is the fact he saw the commotion after one of the sailors jumped from a roof.  He said he had to pass by it.  My heart pains for him.  This is my son who had to be there when his father died of a heart attack while playing basketball with him and some of my son's friends.  It was tramatic for him.  He does not talk about this much or what has happened on base.  As he constantly reminds me he likes to look for the fun.  Some how I believe it takes it's toll.

 I appreciate an honest forum where people feel supported to put their feelings out there as long as they are not directly bashing someone else.

Comment by Kat (MM Nuke) on October 3, 2011 at 5:15pm

I was very saddened when I talked to my son about this situation.  He said "I wonder who it was.... THIS TIME?"  I know they get talked to about this stuff, and it has to be very hard to have it happen so close around them and to people they know.  GOOD PEOPLE.

Comment by NancyJo (NNPTC) on October 3, 2011 at 5:08pm

Txted with my son, said the sailor who committed suicide was actually with a group of people.  That sounded weird to me but not unheard of.  My son didn't know the sailor who died, but his buddies did. Yes, this is the 3rd suicide.  Two occurred just not too long after they all arrived in GC, like maybe, if my memory serves, within the first month or so?  Not good.

Comment by Kat (MM Nuke) on October 3, 2011 at 5:08pm

momofnuke - my son PIR'd 11/5/10 also.  What division was yours?  Mine was 363.

BunkerQB - I agree with you very much about the suicide reasons, and I also believe there are times when there could be other reasons as well.  I think that for this forum I'd like to see that we just keep it to being supportive and sympathetic to all involved and have kind words, like you said.                                        

Comment by Mark on October 3, 2011 at 5:04pm

BunkerQB, is it possible that I didn't make it clear enough that by "situation like this", I meant specifically a marital or relationship breakup? I think that is by far the most common issue for this age group that ends in this kind of tragedy. Having been through the nuc training and submarine service pipeline, that's what I've seen anyway. I think you nailed it in your earlier post BTW, when you mentioned the social awkwardness that is a common trait of Navy Nucs; for many of those in the program, they are experiencing their first serious relationship around this time, and are especially vulnerable to an irrational and overwhelming sense of hopelessness, that may have little to do with the training, other than maybe a tendency to think it makes their personal situation more uniquely painful and tragic, when as most of us know, it's something that just about everyone must face - I've certainly had my own painful experience.

Comment by quiltblue on October 3, 2011 at 4:45pm

seadream... my Sailor had three roommates during A school, moved in with a Married guy until he got married housing and his wife moved to GC. Then he got another Married guy just in from BC... same thing, then his 3rd was a single guy MM who got left behind when mine moved to the SkipJack this past weekend. He is very excited to have a room to himself and only have one person to share a bathroom with this time! He has said he will be allowed to come home for Christmas!

Comment by Aggie08Mom (ship 02,div. 903) on October 3, 2011 at 4:21pm

wow, 3 suicides.  Scary, isn't it?

Comment by TN Navy Mom (Stennis Nuke Mom) on October 3, 2011 at 4:08pm

Aggie08 - my sailor didn't know him and they are neighbors, across my son's backyard playground area.  He watched the emergency vehicles from his window.  I'm sure our sailors (especially the married ones in the vicinity) will be briefed about the situation at some point. 

 

If it was indeed a suicide that will be the third since my sailor has been there.  That's why the Navy takes it very seriously if someone even mentions the word "depressed".

Comment by GlowWormMom on October 3, 2011 at 3:28pm

Hello everyone. Daughter made it to A School on Saturday. Our first phone call was to tell me not only is she safe, but that the recruiter had "lied" about how many males there were to female ratio. I told her I figured as much! She seems really excited. I am very ready to learn as much as I can about this part of her Navy journey, Thank you so much for this group!

Comment by MomofNuke on October 3, 2011 at 3:25pm

Lisa MMNuke Mom,  I wonder if our son's know each other.  My son PIR'ed 11/5/10 as well.  He's graduating PS 12/2 as he is an EM.

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