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Comment by Lala Ribbon Queen PIR Ribbons on June 29, 2012 at 11:10pm

Just got back from taking my Sailor back to the Orlando airport not too long ago. She flew home to NC to meet up with her husband. Tomorrow she is going to visit my parents (her grandparents) and surprise them. They think she is still here with us. It will be at least Christmas before she can take leave again so it will be a long time before they get to see her. I am planning to go visit her in September when the Blue Angels have an airshow in VA Beach :-) No way could I wait until Christmas to see her, at least not as long as she is on American soil :-) Missing her already!!!

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on June 29, 2012 at 9:46pm

I am SMARTPHONELESS! Augh! Sheesh…for three days too! At least! Too funny…but I can’t pop on whenever I want to now!  Double doo-doo!

Oh, Double Doo Doo!

Comment by diannep on June 29, 2012 at 9:29pm

UrabissWife:  All is well!  No one is coming down on you at all.  Just have to be careful, that's all.  Yes, this site IS for support...for everyone!  So hoping that you will stay here and continue to post comments whenever! 

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on June 29, 2012 at 9:11pm

Moving on...I believe your Recruits are heading into Week four? "Hell week"...only called that because it is a very busy week as far as inspections and tests...they will be taking their pictures soon too. This is also when we see the Divisions start to come together...they aren't so "lost" now on the basics...the "newness" is wearing off. Usually the "tone" of letters in a week or so will reflect that too.

 

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on June 29, 2012 at 9:00pm

UrabissWife - Thank you for taking the time to explain about wanting to give a heads up. Yes this is a place to share, learn and understand what your SR's are going through. That's why we veteran moms have stayed on so we can offer advice, answer questions and share our experinces as well as what we have seen experienced on the PIR groups and BC. The military is known for it's "hurry up and wait" and what seem like "overnight" changes...so we do the best we can with it! :-)

For Everyone - The most important thing I can personally stress is OPSEC and support. OPerational SECurity is really important (see the Navy For Moms (N4M) Community Guidelines within them are links to OPSEC videos and tutorials...I can't stress enough that EVERY member should read the N4M CG.) and support for your Sailors and then you yourselves is how we "do this thing".

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on June 29, 2012 at 8:43pm

This is also why I posted this a day or two ago:(This is not directed at you UrabissWife...but relates to the subject matter)

Haven't noticed it here, but a caution in advance...sometimes a recruit will write home that their Division isn't getting it together...and they may write what their opinion is as to why. Examples...people won't stop talking...don’t listen...so it gets the Division in trouble etc. Some moms have felt led to ask others to please write their recruits to behave themselves if they think it is their recruit doing it (which I think is unfair personally...how would you know and they don't need us slamming them in BC for something we have no control over).

I don't advise this at all...it can come around and bite that recruit and possibly the "mom" who posts it right in the behind! I say it because I have seen it happen and felt horrible for the injured parties.

One...this is common...and for some recruits may continue until the end of BC..but you will be amazed at how much change will occur after the fourth week for the better! Two, it is a personal vent between you and your recruit and should stay that way. Three, it's not really our problem anymore...they have signed a contract as an adult and it is the RDC's job to instill order along with the Recruit Petty Officers...as well as a chance for your SR's to blossom and grow.

So, just a caution for you all...not a slam. Want the best for you and your SR's.

(I recently had a mom contact me privately about this and ask me to please warn future PIR groups...so that is what I am doing! Not my fave subject...but the flip side is knowing, "Could I have done something to help before it happened?")

 

 

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on June 29, 2012 at 8:27pm

Okay...I have missed something...so I am guessing your post was removed UrabissWife? You don't have to post what it was about or anything like that. I do see your post about the divison possibly getting set back...so do not know if there was another with a...just assuming.

We have never seen whole Divisions get set back ,or ASMO'd-ASsignment MemOrandum, ...it is done on an individual basis.

This is from the Family Guide put out by RTC:

"While a division’s graduation date will not change, an individual Recruit’s graduation date may change based on performance, which is why we suggest families purchase refundable tickets when possible."

(as far as the refundable tickets...they are THREE times the cost. Even if your Recruit was set back and you had the standard tickets...the fees plus the cost of a new ticket would most likely still be less)

So, could it happen...yes. Has it...no...not that we have seen... and the other veteran moms on the PIR groups have been on here for at least two years ....me, one.

Recruits writing home that there Division may get set back becuase they aren't "getting it together" is common to every PIR group...every...one. 

 

 

 

Comment by UrabissWife on June 29, 2012 at 5:41pm

there may have been some miss understanding here. i was never down talking the RDC's at all. they have a very hard job to do, a lot those kids come straight out of high school and still have a KID mentality. they are there to shape them and mature them for what they need to do. I give them the up most respect b/c of their job. I was simply informing others what may happen with our division. to me that is not a big deal, and if i had spent 600$ on a trip and no one took a minutes to say hey this is whats going on maybe you should get some insurance on your tickets, just as a heads , i'd probably be very upset. im not there to down talk anyone in the navy nor get anyone into trouble, idk why anyone would think to even do that.  im excited to see my SR that is for sure. He is my life, but as far as being overly anxious, nope just excited. i thought this would be a place where we could share what is going on in BC to get a better understanding as to what are SR's are going through.

Comment by aster on June 29, 2012 at 3:59pm

Teamwork and being able to depend upon is paramouint. As rnterry said. it is the RDC's job to get these young men to think as one. My SR was in the local Sherriff Explorer Unit when he was 14. That 1st summer, we were told they were going to the boy scout camp and would do all sorts of fun and exciting things. It really was a "bootcamp", as soon as they got off the bus they were yelling and screaming at them, took all their electronics away, sort of similar to the video clip intro to bootcamp. They had to carry theira beds from the main hall to their cabins, and followed a very strict routine. They had PT early in the morning before breakfast, then showered, alternated physical activities with school work. I called the local rep for the Explorers Monday night concerned as my son was to call me when he arrived and I did not receive the call, that is when I was informed it was a bootcamp to get them all to work together, I was upsert at first, with what I considered "deception" however, at the end of the week was a graduation. What a change in my son in 1 week! Sat at attention for a little over an hour during the ceremony. He was the same 14 year but more responsible, respectful, organized and had become goal oriented. We all went out to dinner to celebrate. The effects of the campl lasted a long time! He even ironed his money so it would be flat in his wallet!  LOL! This team did very well when competing against Explorer units. He even looked forward to weekend bootcamps where his group competed with other Explorer units, it was a very positive learning experience for him, and helped teach me to let go (he is my only child). The RDC's have to be harsh, to get it through their young adult minds, this is not a game, this is serious, your life and the lives of others depend upon you. I know it is rough for them, as well as for us, we all must "suck it up" and keep positive and offer the appropriate support to our SRs. The Navy has been doing this for a long time and has been successful with using these procedures. Example; SEAL TEAM 6. I hope I have not offended anyone, sometimes I come across as very direct. I have cried, I miss him, I wish I could have more contact with him, to help me cope I have created projects for myself, and taken the time to read a few books, and even treated myselt to a pedicure and facial (I normally don't spend money like this, it was encouraged by my mother and sister!) Let's look forward to the meet and greet and then their PIR!

Comment by rnterry 04/817 PIR 7/27 alumni on June 29, 2012 at 2:51pm

Hi Urabiss, I can hear that you are anxious for your SR/Husband and un derstand your concern.  However, their RDC's have the job of preparing over 80+ men to function as one unit.  That is no easy task. It requires everyone of them to set their own selves aside and think of the man next to them.  Their lives could depend on it. If you think about a formation of birds flying south for the winter you see them all fly in order and precision.  If they didn't they would all be smashing into eachother.  If BC was warm, fun and fuzzy none of them would ever want to leave there.  That wouldn't work.  So we need to trust the RDC's to do their job and get our loved ones ready for the jobs they will do as Sailors.  Many, many lives depend on it.  Diannep is right we need to stay out of it, whatever your SR tells you in a private letter should stay that way. He needs to know he can tell you what is happening and it stays between you two.  We are here to help eachother, but there is an unspoken rule that something stay unspoken. Hope that makes some sense.  This is a hard time for us all whether we are a Mom, Girlfriend or Wife.   Hang in there, breathing is really good, have started doing it myself. That and magnesium by the caseful.  I am sure we will all see our SR's on the 27th.  Do something nice for yourself today and see if that helps you relax.   

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