This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.



Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit - America's Navy and also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:



**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  


RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.


Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)


Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

For loved ones and graduates of Ship 5(17) no critics!This is a haven for the above, not for those seeking to attack those in need of support! PLEASE READ THRU MASTHEAD. MANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED HERE!

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

Members: 642
Latest Activity: Aug 11, 2022


LEGAL 847-688-4949 hit 1 at first prompt, 7 at 2nd.
***Have recruit sign WAIVER so they can speak to you about their case. The hours in Legal are 9 am to 5 pm Central Time. This is only if they are being separated and have been transfered to Ship 5.
If they are being separated on medical issue, have them sign HIPPA release so you can talk about the medical issues too.
Medical 847-688-6755
ADDRESSES FOR ALL SHIPS add division number.
Ship 5
3610 Illinois Street
Great Lakes, IL 60088-3118
PUBLIC AFFAIRS 847-688-2405 if no word from recruit they will have them call back!!
TRANSPORTATION ;Once your recruit has a date going home a civilian handles the actual arrangements His number is 847-688-2767 ext 112, Most recent update is this person only hands over the paper work to the travel office which handles the travel arrangements.Have recruit call when he gets to that point to firm up the arrangements.
Contact your CONGRESSMAN if your recruit is getting a raw deal, it does wonders.
Recruit Training Command Ombudsman
(ombudsman assists with problems recruit s family is experiencing)
Ombudsman info
Great Lakes, Illinois 60088-2845
DSN: 792-3603 ext. 100
PHONE: 847-688-3603 ext 100
This one has specific numbers too
NORTH CHICAGO VA HOSPITAL NAVY LIASON; for hospitalized recruits
1-847-688-1900 ext.85438 or 85441
write to
5722 Integrity Drive
Bldg 768
Millington, Tenn 38054
Phone; 800-522-3451 Mon thru Fri 8am to 4 pm
GreatLakes Web page
go to Great Lakes Directory on that page for phone numbers not listed here
RED CROSS ASSISTANCE FOR CONTACTING MILITARY IN FAMILY EMERGENCY,1082,0_476_,00.html Refer to this page re Red Cross Assistance Phone number; 877-2727337
TAMP (Transitional Assistance Management Program) is a program that offers TriCare standard benefits to separated service members (and their dependents) for 180 days after separation. The coverage begins the day following separation, and you can then go to CHCBP (Continued Health Care Benefit Program- similar to COBRA at $933/quarter for service member, $1900 for family), The separated service member has to call and activate the TAMP benefits. That's it- just a phone call. The service member had to have served for than 30 days and the cause for separation has to be no fault of their own (like a medical condition). DEFINITELY worth looking into! Here's the info:
Here's the link for info about the CHCBP, as well:



This contains all the codes and authorities complete with detailed explanations. It explains every block and every code on a DD-214.


Medical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Military Services

  Department of Defense INSTRUCTION NUMBER 6130.03


Criteria and Procedure Requirements for Physical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Armed Forces

  Department of Defense INSTRUCTION NUMBER 6130.4



Discussion Forum


Started by Louisa J. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Jul 20, 2022. 6 Replies


Started by gothgirlL. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Feb 8, 2022. 1 Reply

Son had PIR and is now being sent home.

Started by GingerSnap. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Jan 14, 2022. 3 Replies

Son hurt and coming home

Started by DuchessAK. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Aug 30, 2021. 2 Replies

Waiting for my son to come home

Started by Worriednavymama. Last reply by MNNavyMom Jan 6, 2021. 4 Replies

So dang confused

Started by Camgirl15. Last reply by Worriednavymama May 26, 2020. 3 Replies

Phone card

Started by jvjnavysister. Last reply by Linda Feb 24, 2020. 2 Replies

Son in Ship 5, called to say coming home!

Started by navyRNmom. Last reply by navyRNmom Aug 17, 2019. 2 Replies

Son discharged

Started by Angela. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Jul 30, 2019. 7 Replies

My son called that he's coming home???

Started by Momof2boys. Last reply by lemonelephant Dec 26, 2018. 5 Replies

Is it possible to win appeals in SEPS ??

Started by TexasMom. Last reply by momof3boys Nov 20, 2018. 7 Replies

Help re: Medical DX

Started by 8senough. Last reply by lemonelephant Apr 18, 2018. 2 Replies


Started by NAI MOM. Last reply by lemonelephant Apr 15, 2018. 3 Replies

My son is coming home

Started by Angella. Last reply by Angella Apr 11, 2018. 9 Replies

Son's address is Ship 5

Started by hollywood. Last reply by lemonelephant Mar 14, 2018. 3 Replies

What are his chances...

Started by TXNavyMom. Last reply by lemonelephant Sep 7, 2017. 1 Reply

SEPS since June 13th

Started by SHIP 5 Mom. Last reply by nikita0825 Jun 29, 2017. 13 Replies

What does it really mean?

Started by MrsL. Last reply by Antsmom Jun 21, 2017. 15 Replies

Got the call today

Started by Dawn125789 Apr 6, 2017. 0 Replies

Son has not contacted me since the move to SEPS

Started by ProudTnMom. Last reply by redshewmn Apr 3, 2017. 1 Reply

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Comment by Elina on April 6, 2022 at 5:26pm

Thank you all for the condolences and reassurance. He reached out to me today and seemed to be in a better place than yesterday. Prayers answered.

Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) on April 6, 2022 at 10:49am

Elina I am sorry to hear this.  If he was in A school in the nuke program then often rather than re-rate them they will separate them.  It's usually only once they are in Power School or Prototype that they will re-rate them.  But nothing is set in stone. Stay in contact with him and yes, remind him that this isn't the end of the world.  There is something bigger and better out there for him - he is in no way a failure.  I'm sure this doesn't make him feel better right now but in time he'll figure it out.  Hang in there.  And my condolences on your loss.

Comment by Valtameri on April 5, 2022 at 9:44pm

I am sorry to hear that! It sounds as though he was transferring out of the nuke program, but did not get assigned to another rating (job). It's so hard when one's goals get turned upside down like that, especially when other sad news is mixed in. Condolences also on your family's loss of a mother/grandmother.

Comment by Elina on April 5, 2022 at 9:28pm

Ladies, I found this website very helpful when my son was in RTC. I'm hoping someone can help me again. My son had his PIR in December. He's been at A-school since January.

This evening when I was on the phone with him to talk with him about the unfortunate news of his grandmother's sudden death, he told me that last week he found out that he was didn't"rerate" and is being separated.

Does anyone have more information about what this means for him?

I did share with him the suicide prevention hotline numbers. He's not in a good place right now.

Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) on February 8, 2022 at 5:55pm

Members - please take a look at the new discussion posted up above by gothgirlL "SHIP 5 INFO!! FROM A SEPS RECRUIT".

gothgirlL went through the SEPS process and she has posted a very good discussion on what your SR (and you) might expect.  Of course every case is different but this is the most up to date info that we have as of late.

Thank you gothgirlL for posting this - I'm sure it wasn't easy having to go through the process but we thank you for taking the time to share - and of course we are wishing you the best of luck in whatever the future brings for you!

Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) on February 7, 2022 at 1:06pm

If you are just joining the Ship 5 group be sure to read through the IMPORTANT NUMBERS AND INFO FOR SHIP 5 at the top of the page.  Also note there is a link to the Facebook Ship 5 group which is a little more active (it's near the bottom of the important info).

Comment by Valtameri on August 12, 2019 at 2:30pm

Dear AmyLynn,

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully he can come home, heal up, and be allowed to re-enlist (if that is what he wishes to do).

As far as the 91 goes, that depends if it truly is 91 mmHg (i.e., an arterial blood gas measurement) or 91% (i.e., a measurement of oxygen saturation). If the former, it is within the realm of normal, if the latter, it is a bit low (especially for a young person, one would expect mid to high 90s).

Hope all works out.

Comment by AmyLynn on August 12, 2019 at 1:49pm

Very confused as my son is being separated due to complications of pneumonia. He is now being medically discharge due to Symptoms of Low Oxygen in Blood normal value is between 80 and 100 mmHg and his is 91 ? 

If this is something that will get better why the discharge? so soon.

Comment by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) on May 20, 2019 at 11:49am

angelatx - thank you for sharing - I'm happy to hear that your daughter is home and doing well now.  Even though the Navy didn't work out for her it sounds like it gave her the confidence to move forward and find something she is excited about.  Everything happens for a reason!

Zacks mom - I'm sorry your son is going through this.  I don't have answers for you - I will recommend that you join the facebook group - the link is posted up above.  I'm sure they can give your more information as to his options.  The main thing is if your son thinks he wants to try and go back that he gets a re-enlisted code that will allow it. Hang in there - the main thing right now is for you to be supportive of him.  Please thank him for his willingness to join.

Comment by Zacks mom on May 19, 2019 at 7:42am

Hello ship 5.  My son called and he is being sent to seps after being in ship 4 due to knee injury he sustained at bc. I am so sad for him this was his first time away from home and when asked if he wanted to separate or stay he said go home.... he was sent to gl on April 9 and was in division who’s senior div had the terrible loss - which shocked and truly affected him. also he was injured soon after starting training- sadly when he stepped forward to show his fellow sr’s how to do an exercise- and was apparently picked for a leadership roll early on because his go get em attitude and willing nature-anyway before his first real call home where it was unscripted he called saying he was hurt and being moved to ship 4. On mother’s day I got a call and he was upbeat although going crazy not able to do anything and talking about becoming a pilot after his initial job was completed and he was to re sign up. Now he is heading home....? Apparently the doc said he could stay but would have to return to training, then when his knee- still hurt mind you- was fully destroyed due to activity- and would be soon while in training- he would be sent back to ship 4 to have major knee surgery be in ship 4 for possibly 14 months or so to heal and then continue his training to finish bc. Of course my son is homesick and hurt badly on top of that so he just was thinking of coming home to his family. And that’s what the doc recommended. I called his recruiter and he and I are both so very upset and sad as to zacks treatment. He is a good kid who needed the Navy and all the structure and commroderie it provides and now is being sent home injured!  I as so confused and sad/mad that he was truly injured at bc and they can just send him home- still broken to deal with it on his own...?!?  What do we do for him? How can we get this major surgery paid for??? Please if you have had similar experience or are aware of what to do let me know!!! I love our country and am so very proud of our armed forces- my entire family is military- but am so angry with this situation. ?!? Needing grace and wisdom.......!


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