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Comment by julie b. on September 19, 2010 at 4:53pm

I don't know if our kids have been in this together or not. Jake was supposed to graduat on 9/02. I got the call on August 26th that he would not be graduating with his division. I think he has at leat 2-3 more weeks in RCU at this time. He told me that they will start him running again on a treadmill in PT and when he can run 1.5 miles in under 12 minutes, then they will let him run on the track to do his final run. He said all he has is firefighting battlestation after that...then he will be a sailor.

Comment by julie b. on September 19, 2010 at 3:59pm

They were together thier whole senior year. She went to college in Sacramento and he joined the Navy. I even bought her an airline ticket to his graduation, but now I gues she will be using it to go somewhere else. I think he might have a clue, but it won't matter. He loves her. She would not wait, because she said it is eating her up inside and she doesn't want to lead him on. She is very theatrical and dependant on others to fulfill her needs. My son did a lot of that and he fought with her about it. He told me before he left, he figured she wouldnt be able to do it. so I think he prepared himself. She was the one pushing for this serious relationship, promising faithfullness and marriage. Which of course as a woman of 47, I know these things don't usually work out. I am just angry that she did it now. I think there is another guy already involved. She couldn't wait, because that would mean that she would feel guilty about dating others, etc. I care about her, she is young, and terribly self centered. He is much better off with out her....I hope he has met other young women who are really together and have a stronger character at Great Lakes. It might open his eyes up a little. He is a very sensable and even keeled person, handsome and humble, and also very funny and likable. He has always been more mature than others his age. I am banking on these strengths to get him through this rough spot.

Comment by Tiff'sMom (Sharon) on September 19, 2010 at 3:43pm

oh man... I feel so bad for your son.. I can't imagine how boring it is... maybe you can print out a book on the computer and mail him like 10 pages a day in mail?? I'm sorry about the girlfriend :( you are right though, her character is not one that he would want. How long were they dating? Does he have any clue she is going to break up with him? Why couldn't she wait and tell him when he got done with bc?? Loser! LOL Julie did your son start back with Becky's son and my daughter? Mrssauce I know was a week or two ahead of me, I think! LOL I haven't talked to Becky in awhile, I hope her Jake is doing good though!! Ohh and Fleur too.... hoping Molly is doing ok!!

Comment by julie b. on September 19, 2010 at 3:27pm

If she can't do the run and she is injured further...you will get a call that day. My son says it is like a prison . sitting on the linoleum floors most of the day, can't lean on anything, icing his legs. He said there is nothing to read or do. he asks me to send him a small book, it's not really allowed, but he said if he can fit it in his little space(locker) then he can keep it. He also said he is friends with the mail room people, so hopefully he was able to keep the book. It seems cruel, but it is still bootcamp. The boredom and drlll sargents yelling at them sucks. It isn't easy. He gets to go to PT every morning at 8 am, and then that is it. No outdoor activity on Limited Light Duty. Sunday they get to go to church and make phonecalls...if everyone is behaving! I am hoping they move him up to Phase III soon, I think that is when they get to start getting a bit more freedom. His legs still hurt a lot last sunday when he called. He can't see the light at the end of the tunnel yet. The pain tells him he isn't progressing.This is not true...bones take a long time to stop hurting. Tell her if she finds herself in this place, do not listen to the negative recruits. They can really affect others and make things seem hopeless. I know my son is hangin out with positive ones now...and I am very grateful. I know this sounds terrible...but I wanted you to know what I know through my conversations with Jake. I send letters of encouragement almost everyday with pics. They can have those for sure.

Comment by Tiff'sMom (Sharon) on September 19, 2010 at 3:07pm

WOW... thanks both of you... I'm really worried about her :( I'm not sure how severe it is. I am assuming that they will have her call me Friday if she was not able to do her final PFT? What do yalls sons do while in the RCU? Can they read or anything like that? Do they work? I know they don't have tv hahaha

Comment by julie b. on September 19, 2010 at 3:06pm

Also, I thank you Mrssauce60 for your words of encouragement. It sounds like the PT really helps and I am so happy for your son. I will be praying for him as well. I read an article in a Navy newspaper out of Pensicola that speaks to these issues. It was helpful. I printed a copy of it and sent it to my son in a letter the other day. The Navy says that 75% of recruits that go to RCU is because of stress fractures. The other 25% is a combination of other severe illness, both physical and mental. Approx. 33 % of the total do not graduate for whatever reason. The stress fracture recruits are being forced to stay put and be very bored so they will heal. I get the sense that RCU is a place where they work real hard to get these guys and girls back to a division to graduate. The hardest part is that they keep thier morale up and don't give up. Clinical depression is what I worry about mostly. They can separate them for that. That is why I am so worried about my son. His girlfriend has impeccable timing!
I think he might have expected this, but it's going to hurt to know that she would dump him when he is at such a low. Someday he will realize that this shows something about her character. She can't get through the hard times and this is not a quality in a woman that he needs. I am expecting a call from him today. Seems to be able to call on Sundays. He goes to all the church services and has formed a relationship with a Chaplain there. He also said, he has made many friends. This is a good thing. the old saying, "What doesn't kill you, will make you stronger", comes to mind. Positive thoughts and prayers going out to all of us who are going through this with our children. Being a mom is tough....but we already knew that:)

Comment by mrssauce60 on September 19, 2010 at 2:51pm

No, he was in RCU 6 weeks for a stress fracture. He called the day he was diagnosised with the stress fracture, but it was a few days before when he injured. I think he was trying to work through it without complaining, but finally had to tell someone about the pain.

Comment by julie b. on September 19, 2010 at 2:47pm

My son Jake told me he developed severe shin splints in the last two weeks of his training with his div. He was having a hard time doing the run in time. He said he gave it all he had on the final pfa, and that is when the fractures occurred. Heartbreaking. he was so close to graduation. He says that he will do the run again and has one last battlestation to complete. Then they will graduate him. He is only 3.5 weeks out from the injury, so he has been going stircrazy in RCU on limited light duty. Shin splints can, but not always, lead to these fractures....I will be praying for your daughter on Friday. This is a very tough time for our recruits and they will need all the love and support to keep them going and focused on the goal. My son was told 6- 8 week recovery. Possible graduation at the end of October. All depends on his healing process.

Comment by Tiff'sMom (Sharon) on September 19, 2010 at 1:56pm

He was RCU 6 weeks for the shins?? that's a long recovery time.. my gosh, she just developed them this last week or so.. she didn't have the stress fractures, they checked, what worries me is if she runs the final test on Friday it might make it worse. How soon did he get to call you once he was injured? Was it that day? I see he is graduating a week after my daughter is scheduled too.. :)

Comment by mrssauce60 on September 19, 2010 at 1:40pm

It wasn't the final test, but he ran the second test (which is the one he got hurt on) the day after he got back into a division and did great. By that time had been in RCU almost 6 weeks and had undergone phsyical therapy for his stress fracture. He felt good by the time they put him in a division. My son will run his final test this week. He told his girlfriend his leg is bothering him (not sure exactly what that means and to what extent), so I am praying he will get through his final test without a re-injury. He is on light duty also. My son was in RCU for almost 6 weeks, so it has been almost 9 weeks since he hurt himself.
As long as I don't get a bad news phone call, I am staying positive and trying not to worry.

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