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Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

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Sub Moms

Welcome to the deep, silent world of submarines!  If you're new to this world, start by reading the "Pages" of info found in the right-hand column, below the strip of member avatars.

We welcome your questions.  But, while you're here, maintain silence... don't slam doors or the lid on the toilet!

 Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

Group Administrator: Kaye S. Kaye S.

Members: 1310
Latest Activity: Feb 25

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These articles are the "reference library" for moms, ready to answer FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) 24x7 (twenty-four hours, seven days a week).  You may not have to post a question after all!  Thanks, Kaye S.

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Comment by Mark on March 21, 2009 at 1:26pm
I dunno Lyn - those are pretty good credentials - Adm McKee was the head of the Nuclear Navy during my time on active duty. So much for the "nameless" part, I guess... :)
Comment by LLovesmysailor on March 21, 2009 at 12:23pm
Thank you Susan, that was very kind. All that I know about subs I learned a long time ago. My roommate in college (in the time of the dinosaurs) married a guy named Lt. James McKee. His Dad was Admiral Kinnard McKee. We use to sit around his house and listen to him talk about his time aboard the USS Nautilis. So my submarine knowledge is really old. Mark has all the answers for the 21st century Navy.
Comment by NevadaSierra on March 21, 2009 at 11:28am
Welcome Karyn. This is an amazing group.
Lyn you are awesome. Our sailor is a Nuke and I know nothing about his job. Thank you for sharring. Mark you are so wonderful to help us understand.
I hate it when I can't be here daily to learn more. Thank you too.
Like Sandy and some others, my first thought was the name of the sub and that our sailor was okay. Then I instantly felt guilty. Prayers for all and their parent's.
I learned more about the Battle E award by serfing on line. It is very impressive to learn about. ~s
The silent service is pretty amazing. ~s
Comment by Mark on March 21, 2009 at 12:36am
One other note - you can see damage at the base of the sail, where it meets the pressure hull. That is to say, where the base of the sail was crunched against the very stout pressure hull. Rats...I just noticed I misspelled "Strait" also - please forgive me, Kaye... :)
Comment by Mark on March 21, 2009 at 12:26am
Thanks Lyn - I think I found the same photo on the navy.mil website. You're right - the sail is definitely bent and twisted. I cropped and magnified the sail to show the damaged portion a little more clearly. I never experienced anything like that, nor have I ever heard from anyone who did, but your "nameless person" isn't far off. The Hartford certainly would have taken an abrupt roll to port, along with coming to a near stop. I don't think it rolled drastically, or there would have been more than fifteen injuries. By the way, a submarine would survive a ninety degree roll. The variables would have been the angle of impact, speed and the resistance of the tanker's hull. I would think that speed would have been relatively slow in an area like the Straight of Hormuz, the tanker hull probably did offer a tremendous amount of resistance, and the angle of impact looks like it was mostly in the direction of the bow, but a little to the port (left) side. Know also, that since the sail is outside of the pressure hull (as I clairvoyantly pointed out in a post yesterday) :) it's a more lightly constructed part of the submarine that would be more easily deformed by a collision like this.


Comment by Karyn on March 20, 2009 at 11:36pm
Hello All. Just joined your group. As an intro, my son is on the USS Alexandria. He is a machinist mate, First Class. Has been in a little over 9 years. I also have a step son on the carrier George Washington stationed in Japan. I'm retired from public service and have my husband still working! LOL Hope to get to know all of you.
Comment by LLovesmysailor on March 20, 2009 at 11:10pm
Mark, I just got a look at a picture of the Hartford post collision. Is it possible to twist or bend the Sail or was it just an illusion caused by the angle of the photo? Because, besides the huge gash in the top front of the Sail it sure looked like it was twisted to the side. A person who shall remain nameless told me that a collision like that could actually roll the sub almost on its side. True or False?
Comment by Mark on March 20, 2009 at 10:34pm
Lyn - you got it just right, with all the correct terms and everything; I'll just add that an "all head full" bell is much less than maximum available power, I probably shouldn't say exactly what though, but there is a comfortable margin to make sure our guys get there OK.
Comment by Mark on March 20, 2009 at 10:29pm
Battle "E" is awarded to a ship or submarine that meets high standards for Excellence in tactics as demonstrated during war games with other vessels, including Navies of our allies.
Kaye (sweetie :) ) - I know they say that, but trust me, they don't have the same respect for your ability to grasp the technical details, so they simplify the whole thing. Found the pic of a boat doing an emergency blow BTW - and Kaye, I wish you a very happy reunion with your son in a few days, maybe someday I'll get to meet him, since I do work on the 'Bama occasionally...

Comment by NevadaSierra on March 20, 2009 at 6:27pm
Whew Whew congrats to those salors that won the Battle E award! YEA! Congrats to the mom's and dad's that raised such awesome men!
 
 
 

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