This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.



Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

All Hands Magazine's mini-documentary series "Making a Sailor": These six videos follow four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Making a Sailor: Episode 1 - "Get on the Bus"

Making a Sailor: Episode 2 - "What did I get myself into?"

Making a Sailor: Episode 3 - "Processing Days"

Making a Sailor: Episode 4 - "Forming"

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor - Episode 5

Making a Sailor: Episode 6 - "I'm a U.S. Navy Sailor"

...and visit - America's Navy and to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. There are now tickets issued, and there are no longer parking passes for PIR.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)


Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Members: 12521
Latest Activity: 8 hours ago

Answers to Common Questions

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out and They will have lots of information for you. also has items at times. has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in

RTC will stream PIR live at beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you may be able to see the video at, but not all of them are included there.)


Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)


What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.


When will "The Box" come?

It will usually arrive by FedEx within a few days, but it can take up to 2 weeks at times.


I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address against those at or Ship/Division--How it Works


When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The Form Letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)You can find a copy of the current form letter in the Page, The Form Letter. The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at RTC Friends and Family Brochure July 2017 rev.pdf. The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The Form Letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets. Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing this very special event and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 5 pm to 10 pm at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to to RSVP). You must pick up your tickets for PIR at the Recruit Family Welcome Center either Thursday or Friday before 8 am. (For PIR dates that are on a day other than Friday, the Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open the day prior to PIR and the morning of PIR.) Picking them up the day before PIR would be ideal. Guests must pick up their own ticket using the ID that was indicated in the Security Access Form that was included with The Form Letter and returned to the recruit.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday and if your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.



Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information and has a meet and greet at the Lakehurst Event Center in Waukegan the night before PIR (go to to RSVP). His cell number is 847-212-0246. His M&G and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.


Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

Who can attend PIR?

Your recruit will indicate the names of four guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with The Form Letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive The Form Letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.


GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the new website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.


If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available on our website at (See

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending.

Please ensure that those who check-in to receive their graduation tickets are the same as those listed on the access list. Tickets will ONLY be issued to those individuals (each individual MUST pick up their own ticket). During the check-in process we will do our best to provide information about recruit training, the graduation ceremony, where to buy Navy pride memorabilia, and any other questions you might have.  

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend and


Donna is no longer active on the site and lemonelephant will be helping out along with many others who have begun this journey before you. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

USPS Informed Delivery - sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

USPS Informed Delivery


Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Discussion Forum

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Comment by Chipmunk 8 hours ago

Congratulations to all those who have sailors this PIR. It is my two year anniversary this Friday. We were half way to GL and stopped at a motel by this time. I did not get my call until we were trying to pack and leave, so I know what a relief it is. Safe travels for everyone. 

Nuke Loo's Mom - thanks for sharing the journal idea!

Comment by Chipmunk 8 hours ago

WaterLily, I basically am just echoing the other replies. I took with us to GL a black drawstring bag that my son had with the few items he had asked for. Primarily his Kindle! But also his phone. We went through stuff in the motel room and repacked that drawstring bag accordingly. When we met him at the airport he was able to put those items in his backpack. 

I shipped some items to him at his A school once he knew more of what he needed and the weather conditions. 

Comment by A'sSubMom 8 hours ago

WaterLily, we brought a bag that my son had packed before he left.  It had his old phone and some clothes he thought he wanted. We also included his boxers,  black and white socks,  and a few shirts and shorts.  When he was on liberty he went through his bag and told us what he wanted to take with him. That next morning we met him at the airport with the bag full of things he wanted to take.  He added this to his carry-on bag and folded everything the Navy way so it all fit.  He had checked his sea bag already. Luckily he only had the one bag to carry around until his flight took off. My son actually got sick of caring around his bag so he bought a rolling suitcase at the airport.  I always wondered who bought suitcases at the airport.  Now I know.  Lol! Everything worked out great and he was able to bring what he really wanted with him to A school. He's there now and says that he has room for his things. 

Comment by Phoenixmom 9 hours ago

A black back pack or tote you do not want to overload Because they are to carry all belongings and there sea bags are big and heavy. In this site it will explain.

Comment by Devs Mom 9 hours ago
Sorry not hospital (nurses brain) airport. It's been a LONG day.
Comment by Devs Mom 9 hours ago
You'd pack a light bag and take it to the hospital the morning they fly out.
Comment by WaterLily 9 hours ago

Moms who have gone through PIR and whose recruits then flew out for A-school:   Did you bring an actual pack/bag for your recruit, with the items they asked you to bring when meeting them at the airport?  Or did they already have their own Navy-issued bag that your recruit put the items into?  My SR has asked for his running shoes, socks, boxers, a favorite t-shirt and running shorts and at the top of his list, he wrote “bag at airport.”  I’m trying to figure out if he needs us to bring a bag or if he merely plans to stash his stuff from home in the bag he’ll already have packed & ready????

Comment by Nuke Loo’s Mom⚓️ 12 hours ago

Dear Fellow Navy BC Moms,

I'm finding this website to be a VERY helpful resource for quality information and support.  I suspect that someone else over the years has recommended the "5-Year Journal" but just in case...I've been finding daily journaling to be both therapeutic and a great way to archive this amazing time for our family.  If you are not familiar with this type of journal, it's very short and each page is dedicated to a single day over 5 years.  You can start at anytime as you fill in the year with each entry.  Over the next 5 years it will be a neat way to see how far our daughters/sons have come in their Navy journey. will be a nice way to see how far WE come during the same time span.  There are many of these available on the web. I'm using this one on the Amazon website

Something to consider and keep our minds occupied. Hope this is helpful.

Comment by Phoenixmom 16 hours ago

Dana Not sure, when is his PIR would you happen to know? PIR's are usually on Wed. or Friday.

Comment by Phoenixmom 16 hours ago

Here are the links to the current PIR groups. Please click the link to join the group for your recruits graduation date.

PIR: August 23, 2019 TG 42 5 Divisions (301 - 304, and 942)

PIR August 30, 2019 TG 43 15 Divisions (307 - 320, and 943)

The August 30, 2019 TG 43 will be allowed only 3 guests for PIR

PIR: September 06, 2019 TG 44 15 Divisions (321-334, and 944)

The September 06, 2019 TG 44 will be allowed only 3 guests for PIR

PIR: September 13, 2019 TG 45 15 Divisions (335 - 346, 820, 821, and 945)

The September 13, 2019 TG 45 will be allowed only 3 guests for PIR

PIR: September 20, 2019 TG 46 9 divisions (347 - 354, and 946)

PIR: September 27, 2019 TG 47 13 Divisions (355 - 362, 823 - 825, and 947)

The September 27, 2019 TG 45 will be allowed only 3 guests for PIR

PIR: October 04, 2019 TG 48 11 Divisions (363-372, and 948)

Click on the date of your recruit’s PIR and join the group to connect with others with loved ones training with your recruit. 


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