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Comment by Allison on October 27, 2017 at 5:41pm

Mom of two:

Students are not required to go home during stand down, many stay for a number of reasons. My husband and I were going to be PCSing mid way through stand down, and he'd already be authorized automatically for the detachment and report dates, so he did not take the leave to go anywhere, and saved the extra week or so.

If your sailor lives within 300miles of base or just doesn't want to come home yet for whatever reason, he will not have to borrow leave during stand down, and he will not attend any classes; however, he will be subject to all regular liberty hours and rules, and he will have duty more frequently (about every other day as opposed to the usual every four days, just depending how many stay) to cover all the necessary watches.

If your sailor wants to travel more than 300 miles for the break, or wants to have the freedom of no watches and no liberty rules so he can be where he wants when he wants alone and overnight, he will HAVE to take leave. He can borrow I think up to 10 or 11 leave days to do this, since he won't have many saved up by then (if you want to calculate, it's 2.5days/month of active duty, including bootcamp). If he is in a Long A school, like ET/FC, I would advise him to go ahead and take advantage of that because he's so early on in A school and will not have another opportunity for leave except in emergencies until he graduates school, so he'll make it up and earn more leave in no time. If he's in a short a school at Great Lakes, he may want to save some of that borrowed leave for when he graduates, so he can come home again between duty stations if he wishes.

It's very likely that they will try to give your sailor the opportunity to request leave. They really want as many people to go home as possible during this time, and when students stay, some staff has to stay, and they have to manage them and everything, which they hate, so if they can make it happen, they will, and they plan the RTC graduations around stand down for a school, there is a 2-3 week gap before they'll start pushing divisions again because they know no one will be there to process them into A school, but that doesn't guarantee leave. I think your son will make the cut off though, he'll have a week by the time standown starts, and he can borrow ahead, so if anything, he should be good for the 28th departure, but I won't make any promises to you.

As far as advance warning, there's no saying with the navy. Typically, chits are approved by the end of the week of submission in Great Lakes, but stand down is a whole different story because they're processing so many at once. Unfortunately, you may find yourself booking last minute, but if you didn't know already, many airlines have military fares available by phone reservation even for leisure travel. Another option is to check with the airline's change/rescheduling policy, if it's pretty lenient, you might consider booking a flight now, that you could change to about when you expect your sailor to graduate a school if the plans fall through for stand down.

Comment by Phoenixmom on October 27, 2017 at 4:19pm

Yes he fills it out turns it in, I believe once he gets into A school, he will be briefed on the Holiday stand down and be told what to do, from my knowledge they were briefed already. after Oct. 31st they start filling out the chit and turn it in and he will be notified if it was authorized and when they can start making flight arrangements.

Comment by mom of two on October 27, 2017 at 3:44pm

So....he completes this chit and then hands it in.  Will he know in time so we can get him a plane ticket home?  Sorry....I am all new to this and freakin out!!!!! lol..........I knew it was to good to be true.  He said no one said that to him!! lol

Probably more like didn't pay close attention because he was sooo nervous

Comment by Phoenixmom on October 27, 2017 at 2:40pm

Mom of two that is correct.

Comment by mom of two on October 27, 2017 at 2:23pm

So my son is under the impression that he doesn't have to take his vaca time for stand down because it is different?  I have told him he needs to question this, because I just don't plain agree with that......lol!!!!!!!!  He will have to fill out chit papers and request the vacation correct?

Comment by Mattsmomma on October 27, 2017 at 1:35pm

The "sick on leave" thing never even occurred to me to ask - thanks so much for thinking of posting that information!

Comment by Phoenixmom on October 27, 2017 at 1:11pm

They must check in at the "A" School and the command there will let them know if they can take leave or not. If Leave will be authorized, then the Sailors wishing to take leave would need to fill out a chit requesting leave and have it approved before making any other arrangements.

Comment by Phoenixmom on October 27, 2017 at 1:06pm

There is stand down don't know if all leave or not. Not for sure about the timeline they have to put in their chit. Anti M would have that answer.

Comment by Blakeeesmom on October 27, 2017 at 1:00pm

My SR has PIR on Nov 22 and is going to A school at Great Lakes. Is stand down required? Do they get to leave for the holidays for sure?

Comment by Phoenixmom on October 27, 2017 at 10:53am

Thank You Anti M, so if they reserve a flight say after 2pm that will be ok? my son wants to come back a day early is that good enough time? you are awesome with your answers!

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