This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

FIRST TIME HERE?

FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by GR8RABsMom on March 24, 2013 at 3:51pm

Nick's mom . . . I am printing out your comments!  Thank you so much for the detailed information.  I'm sure it will be incredibly helpful to me in the future.  Congratulations to you and your son! 

Comment by Rhody Navy Mom on March 24, 2013 at 3:47pm

Sorry, took me a little while to write the continued part!  

Comment by Rhody Navy Mom on March 24, 2013 at 3:46pm

CONT'D

My son was flying out to San Antonio, TX on the first flights out Saturday morning  :(  so after gradation, we ate at Chili's (his choice),  he took a long, hot shower at the Navy Lodge, went to the NEX, and just hung around.  Things to bring for your SR - cell phone and charger, a change of clothes for them to hang in the hotel, their fav. snacks and their own boxers/underwear (several pairs).  They are tired of wearing the Navy whites.  It was wonderful to just hang out and catch up, make calls back home, etc.  My Sailor had to be on base by 7:30pm - do not be late!!!  You can drop them off at the Illinois Gate or if you have your gate pass and Id, you can drive them down to the chapel.  They walk so much, its nice to give them a lift when you can.  My son was relaxed, so happy and proud of himself!  Do what your Sailor wants to do.  Mine did not want to go into Chicago. They cannot take anything back to base with them - no cell phones, no snacks, etc.  

My son left the base on the bus heading to O'hare at 1am.  I left Navy Lodge at 1am and drove to O'hare, saw the buses dropping them off at Terminal 2, USO lounge at Delta.  Parked car and met him at USO lounge.  There I gave him a bag: cell phone, charger, clothes, boxers, gum and snacks for plane.  Hung out at airport with him from 2-4am, but due to lack of sleep I was not feeling well so I said good bye (not nearly as bad this time, since you can now have contact with them) and drove back to Navy Lodge to sleep a few more hours.  He left for TX at 6am.  Got a call today from him and he is processing in, doing great!  All in all, PIR is not to be missed!  Its a one in a lifetime experience that I will never forget!  Thank you to everyone on this website, at the Navy Lodge and Sarge and his crew for making my adventure such an unforgettable one!  Good luck to all new SR's and their families. On base, I saw divisions 164, 163 and several others marching, doing a great job!  Your should be so proud!  It does get easier, write letters everyday, it really helps them!  Hang in there, soon you'll be writing about your PIR adventure on here too!  

Comment by lemonelephant on March 24, 2013 at 3:44pm

I'm sure she'll post more since she ran out of space.

Comment by GR8RABsMom on March 24, 2013 at 3:43pm

I was so excited to read Nick's mom from RI's experience at her son's PIR but when it got to "(continued)" I didn't know how to continue.  Any help?

Comment by Rhody Navy Mom on March 24, 2013 at 3:32pm

Just back from my Sailor's PIR - what an amazing experience.  PIR makes you feel so proud to be an American and part of the Navy family.  I valued other moms experience at PIR so I thought I'd write a little about my adventure!  

     I flew Southwest from Providence to Midway Airport in Chicago.  O'hare is 40 minutes to Great Lakes and Midway is about 65 min. but Southwest only flies into Midway.  Southwest is one of the only airlines not to charge a fee if you need to change your flight, but you do have to pay the difference in the flight,  if there is one.  I rented a car from Enterprise, very easy, their counter is right in the baggage claim area.  I also rented the IPASS for the tolls, since there are many and some you have to have exact change (coins).,  The drive to Great Lakes was easy, just bring your GPS!     

       I stayed at the Navy Lodge which was AWESOME!  So accommodating, and the room, for $66.00, was perfect for what you need - and its the closest to the base, less than 10 min. from graduation hall.  My room was very, very clean; two queen beds (VERY comfortable), a microwave and large refrigerator, plenty of towels and pillows, coffee pot with coffee and iron/board.  Mornings, they had a 'grab n go' breakfast which was great when heading to PIR and the airport - prepackaged bagels, granola bars, OJ, and danish!  What a deal!  

       Since I had a car, I explored the area, the gates as to where to line up for PIR, parking, etc.  Also found Gurnee Mills - about 15 min. way.  It has Walmart, Target, a mall, and every restaurant you can imagine......attended Sarge's Meet and Greet at Sundance Salon and I would recommend this to everyone.  One gal at the hotel asked me what time graduation was on Thursday and I almost fell over.  Told her about the Meet and Greet and they went and learned so much - from what our recruits have been doing at boot camp, graduation and PIR, parking, where to sit at PIR, etc.  Very informative!!!!  Get there early, I wish we had gone earlier.  Starts at 5:30-9pm.  There is a slide show and buffet dinner that Sarge, his wife and friends put on - thank you to them for doing this.  I do wish there was a more organized way to meet other mom's from this website; its hard since you rarely know a mom's name, just their email name.  All in all, the meet and greet was fun and very informative!  

       PIR day - get there EARLY!  Even though I had a car, I booked Sarge to pick me up Friday morning at 6am.  If you drive, you need to get to the parking lot for like 5:30am to park at the train station or you'll be parking a lot farther away.  There is limited space.  The line down Buckley Road along the base was miles long at 6:40am.  If you take a cab or shuttle, they bypass this line and drop you off at the gate on Ohio St. where your enter for PIR.  Be prepared to walk, dress warm and wear comfortable shoes.  I felt bad for the ladies and girlfriends who wore very high heels and short dresses!  I had read to sit upstairs in the balcony for a better view.  When I got into the hall  (make sure everyone has their ID's), I decided to sit on the bleachers downstairs.  I got the 2nd row and was ecstatic!  Ask your Sailor where he is standing....my son told me sit to the left of the blue chairs which I did...it was perfect!  I could see my sailor the entire time!  I was seated by 6:55am, doors did open a little early due to the cold.  They sell drinks and souvenirs while your waiting and provide a slide show about the Navy!  Make sure you check your cameras for the lighting.  The Sailors will enter through the large metal door on the south end of graduation hall (the one to the left of the bleachers where you entered).  When that door lifts and you start seeing the Sailors, its just amazing!  So proud!  The enter by divisions. My son walked right by me - it was so cool to be so close and see him smirking when he saw me. 

(continued)

Comment by lemonelephant on March 23, 2013 at 9:38pm

:o)

Comment by lemonelephant on March 23, 2013 at 9:30pm

KyleA's Mom, I must have been making a change on my profile when you tried to reply.  Hopefully, there is not a problem now.

Comment by lemonelephant on March 23, 2013 at 9:27pm

KyleA's Mom, my MA is at his third duty station and mostly enjoying his time in the Navy.  He has reenlisted, so I will be around a while.  I don't share his name or where he is by choice to increase PERSEC. (See OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes To Your Profile) if that is a new term for you.)

Comment by lemonelephant on March 23, 2013 at 9:14pm

KyleA's Mom, another group for you is Navy Reserve Moms (clickable link).

 
 
 

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