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Comment by Mark on May 8, 2009 at 4:07pm

Thanks Lauren - I may have been too absolute in my answer, now that you mention the Navy Band (THE Navy Band, as opposed to the special division that performs at PIR). I had the impression that they didn't go to the "real" boot camp. At any rate, I would expect that any of the "ceremonial" units, including the service orchestras, choirs etc have different rules. BTW - I'm talking strictly about units of musicians, not honor guard, or rifle drill team units, which are composed of "full-fledged" service members, who are all obligated for their full term of enlistment.

Comment by lauren on May 8, 2009 at 2:49pm

I'm thinking that this may have changed a bit. Now I will have to ask him to explain it to me again. But my son was talking about this DOR and I think he told me that when enlisting he had the option to get out during boot camp, because I think that a couple of the guys did get out when he was in BC.
We were just talking about this, because my youngest has been talking about enlisting and I said that the only way he could do it ( like I have, or should have any choice at whet he does.....LOL) was if he got in for the Navy band and we started talking about what would happen if he got to BC and then not in the band and Kel started talking about how he is not committed till after BC....Now like I said I will have to ask him for clarification, because of the time difference it is always as 12 when we talk ....so maybe i was half asleep and got it all wrong.....maybe what I thinking about is not called DOR

And Liz good for you( and us) for raising such a strong willed young lady .you must be proud
As for the missing part.......my son has been in for over 6 years and I still cried when we hung up last night
Dawn you are getting closer and closer..........I bet you are shaking inside...just remember about a box of Kleenex for each of you. and I'm getting excited I can't wait to meet and have some fun with a new friend.

THANK YOU AJ for the greeting

Comment by Mark on May 8, 2009 at 2:27pm

Hi Sherry,
DOR is not an option to any enlisted in the military. There is a process for getting out, but it is deliberately made very painful and difficult, and is a "less than honorable" discharge that impacts future employment and potential security clearances. There are some groups, like SEALs (may be only one actally), that can voluntarily remove themselves from SEAL training, but they're still obligated for their enlistment in the Navy.

Comment by Sherry James on May 8, 2009 at 11:45am

Hi Liz, Dawn and AJ,

Liz it sounds like your daughte is doing well at BC and tell her to hang in there and she'll be fine. Those who are leaving are probably those kids who are DOR (Drop on Request) and may not have been actually sent home. One of the biggest strengths to have is just to STRONGLY WANT to finish bc without quitting. Your daughter should do well especially if she is the runner(fighter) you've described.

Dawn & Liz ~ The missing her part is a lot harder rectify, just keep as busy as possible.

AJ ~ Thank you so much for the Mother's Day present!!

Happy Mother's Day to all the moms and the dads that are doing double duty!!

Comment by Sherry James on May 7, 2009 at 11:50am

Thanks to Mark & Lauren, I have learned a plethora of Navy, Nuke and Sub info!

Comment by lauren on May 6, 2009 at 11:05pm

Why thank you for answering for me Mark..............

Comment by Mark on May 6, 2009 at 9:35pm

Oh - you misunderstood Lauren - all US subs are nuclear. IA stands for "Individual Augmentee", who are Navy personnel who (mostly voluntary) serve a tour of duty doing a job related to their Navy job in Iraq or Afghanistan, to take a little of the load off Army and Marine Corps personnel. God bless 'em!

Comment by Mark on May 6, 2009 at 9:08pm

Sure - ordinance is the stuff that goes BOOM! It sounds like she is in charge of the sailors responsible for safe handling and storage of all the ammunition, missiles, etc. Probably not the kind of stuff Mom really wants to hear about, but I'm sure she's more than capable. Thanks for the info on "THE" book, BTW ;), I'll check it on Amazon...

Comment by Sherry James on May 6, 2009 at 12:20pm

Thanks Mark for explaining the Sonar Tech and how it works. It sounds extremely technical. I guess I'm not surprised by what you reported on the enlistment bonus being eliminated or reduced. Unfortunately it seems to be in line with the rest of the economy right now. I guess its difficult to keep Nucs without offering the bonuses.

THE book, as I like to call it, is Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man by Steve Harvey the comedian. It's funny but has many good points in terms of the male/female connection or misconnection as the case may be. So far, it is giving me a few fresh ways to view dating and relationships with men that I had not considered before. And confirmed what we all know, that men and women think about (& handle) relationships differently.

Lauren, thank you too for the explanation that all subs are not Nuke. Now what is IA? Hawaii during winter break, aaahh. Sounds divine, let me know about the girls break thingie. I've got the sun tan lotion and brim hat!

Yes, Mark, my daughter is on a destroyer out of Norfolk and is the Ordinance Officer. Maybe you can explain to me what she does?

Comment by Mark on May 5, 2009 at 11:06pm

Sherry, I meant to ask - is your daughter on a ship now? - if so, what division on board is she working with?

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