Ship 07---- Division 174

[Brandis_Mom]

Since we will all be sitting in the same section of the bleachers at PIR, maybe it would be nice to have us all post something here in this section.  We could keep up with what the Division is doing by the letters others are receiving from this Division as well.

[Brandis_Mom]

I was on facebook the other day and came across this information that the Public Affairs Office posted about what could happen if a recruit did not pass the PFA, but I guess like anything else it all depends on the circumstances.

 

U.S. Navy Recruit Training Command

Here's how this situation can play out: He was removed from his division and placed into the Fit division where RDCs work with him to help him train to be able to pass his run.

He will not get another phone call home until he has ...passed the run. He will get the opportunity to take the test every other day.

If he passes the run prior to graduation, he will be able to graduate. If he passes the run right before graduation and winds up doing Battle Stations on Thursday before graduation, while he'll be graduating, for his own safety's sake, he'll be seated in the upper bleachers as he would have then been awake for more than 35 hours.

If he doesn't pass the test before graduation, he will remain in the Fit Division. Once he passes, he will go directly to A School without participating in a graduation ceremony as his division would have already graduated and the Navy does not wish to delay his training any further.

At this point, all you can do is wait for his call informing you that he has passed his test. And cross your fingers. 

[Brandis_Mom]

Just got a  phone call from my daughter she said today they were Week 5 Day 2 and that BattleStations begin on Week 7 Day 1 and that it would be on May 12th and if they all pass Battlestations they will be become "Sailors" on Friday the 13th, lets hope that is a very LUCKY day for all of them.

[Patti (7/174)]

I got a call today as well. Seems some of 174 is being less than kind to her. That's probably an understatement. She is getting garbage from some of her old division (not so much now that they graduated, thankfully), and LOTS from her new one.

They call her and all the other asmoe'd people "asmoers" and treat them like 3rd class citizens. She's already been threatened by someone, and someone else said they would "throw her overboard" if they ever "got stuck" being on a ship with her. I certainly hope they all realize that they need to work together on BS and they should be working as a team, not against each other. 

 

The humorous thing is, this division is less organized than her old one (she  mentioned their low score on their rack inspection), and instead of pulling together to get things done correctly, they are slowly tearing it apart. They should use the asmoed people to their advantage to learn from what they have already been thru. The testing, the gas chamber, all the practicing for graduation, etc.

To say I'm angry is an understatement. Before I was terribly disapointed in HER, and now I'm disapointed in people I don't even know! 

 

They are making her want to quit. She isn't a quitter, so I guess they'll be stuck w/her for another few weeks. The hardest thing to teach our kids is how to treat other people fairly. She was far from being an angel in that department before joining, but she was quick to learn that they have to act as one team, not individuals. 

 

If I was sad before when I found out she was asmoed, I'm just as sad now knowing what people are putting her through. We are all our own worse critics (you should see me try and decorate a wedding cake), no one needs to make anyone feel any worse than they already do.

Sorry for venting, it's been driving me nuts all evening :(

[Brandis_Mom]

I understand completely where your coming from my daughter has said the same thing about the division that there are some there that are horrible to some of the others, she said she is just trying to get along as much as possible and stay out of the way of the ones with, how shall I say this, with an over confident mouth I guess would be a polite way of saying things. 

 

I keep telling my daughter to find ones that are willing to work as a team and try to hang around them, cause if you don't work as a team, then BattleStations will be that much harder on everyone.

 

Patti, if you ever feel like venting please go on and vent, it is better to get it out then to keep it all bottled up inside of you.

[Tricsious (07/174)]

I am very sad to hear this.  I haven't heard this and my dtr didn't mention it.  She did say they just got some new people but they have no idea what anyone was set back for. She better not be one taking part in any of this.  I will kick her butt! This is quite disappointing to hear and I agree it will get them no-where.  It's a form of bullying and shouldn't be allowed.  My dtr said they played a trick on her and told her she was being ASMOE'd and she started to cry and it was a joke.  NOT FUNNY!!!  I sure hope the div gets there heads out of there butts bc its the only way they are going to get through the rest of bootcamp and survive in the real world. 

 

Patti, I'm sorry for your dtr and will say a prayer for her.  I'll also tell my dtr to look out for her. What is her first name?

[tks4]

I am with Brandis Mom and Tricsious. This news breaks my heart. I hope my daughter is not a part of this. I will be asking her in the  next letter about what is going on. I am afraid for her. She is very strong but this is a new situation for all of them. Please keep us posted on what you hear from your daughter. I know we cant say out daughters names on here but how can we connect so that we can???? I wanted this to be the best experience for my daughter and for her to come out feeling good about her self. If she is making anyone feel bad I want to know although that is not in her character but if you are scared you might go along with the crowd to feel safe.

[Patti (7/174)]

Many of these recruits are fresh out of HS and forget that it's not how you act in the real world. None of US would dream of being like that to someone else. They are only acting out of frustration, and frankly, acting their ages.

I'm pretty sure my daughter is one of those with the "mouth" because she sees things only in black and white and tends to be very confident in herself. Altho, she sure didn't seem too confident these last few weeks.

She keeps telling me she isn't saying anything to anyone, keeping to herself, etc...but I know my daughter! Altho...maybe I don't! She is not the same person I sent in to the Navy, that's for sure. But everyone has their weaknesses, and being bullied may just push her to the edge. I hope she has the shoulders to bear it properly.

I'm sure none of your daughters are involved in this. You all seem to have brought them up correctly and from what you've been saying, they sure don't seem like the type to be participating in this.

I apologize if my daughter is one of the "mouths" that are over confident. Most people act that way to compensate for something, and in this case, it just may be embarassment or trying to act tough so these bullies will back off.

 

It was great to hear her voice, even tho she seemed very let down. Hopefully she'll get herself re-motivated and push thru all of these trials life is throwing at her. After all, this will be my second go around for the call "I'm a sailor", and this time, I want to get that call!!!

@Brandismom, perhaps we can get our girls to work together and perhaps push the rest of them along. I'm sure it's frustrating for them to work so hard and others just not care. May be easier on them if they know we all talk to each other, therefore we can all support each other, and they can do the same.

 

 

[CorpsmansGirl08 (station:GL,IL)]

Reading this makes me a little disappointed. My boyfriend is in 173 and he had mentioned all the IT from people talking and not listening in their division. He said on saturday the RDC's got fed up and made his division watch a video on 9/11 and he said it was a punishment worse then IT when a little girl's voice came on and read a letter she had wrote to her daddy who had died in the towers. he said at the end of the video there wasn't a dry eye in the room. They were told to reflect on the video and decide whether they still wanted to be there. And why they signed their name on that line. I could read in that letter that he had changed, that this video had thrown him for a loop. Now he is more determined then ever to finish this. I was able to talk to him on the phone yesterday and mentioned the video, his voice sunk and i could tell it hit him really really hard. maybe thats what they needed to come together because since then they have earned two flags for their division and he has earned two ribbons/metals? Im not sure what they are called. but it sounds like the division is starting to come together, I hope 174 starts coming together also!

[Patti (7/174)]

It's kind of ironic that the video that boosted them had to do with 911. Especially since the wonderful news we all got to witness last night/this morning (for those who didn't see it last night!). Has there been such outstanding news in the last 9 years and 4 months?!

How horrible it is to be happy somoene is dead...I feel kinda guilty about it. But, as I grew up in NY, we have family there who literally witnessed the towers being hit; my sister and her family live near DC, so the Pentagon hit also brought shivers thru the family; it especially hits home for us...plus of course, our beloved military personnel who have given their lives to track down and dispose of this "man". It is a perfect lesson for all of our SR's right now...look what you can do when you WORK AS A TEAM!!!!!!

[Brandis_Mom]

Received two letters from my daughter, she sounded okay, asked for her ATM card so she could pay for the division shirts and hoodie she ordered and also her pictures. All in all other then some of the girls not wanting to work as a team, she says things are going okay other then that and she is anxious to get to battlestations, which I am sure they all are.

[1ProudMomma]

Patti, I am so sorry to hear what your daughter is going through.  My daughter has been going through something similar as well.  I agree that a lot of it is because they have so very many young people that are straight out of high school and still have a lot to learn about the real world.  My daughter is older and is having a difficult time dealing with all of the immaturity.  She is very serious about accomplishing this and desperately (sp?) wants their division to be the best they can be.  She was looking forward to this so much, it breaks my heart that it is not turning out to be such a good experience for her so far.  I was hoping she would build some great relationships that she could carry with her the rest of her life,....not to say that she won't after she graduates,...I was just hoping that boot camp would start that for her as well.

[Div174StarboardWatch]

I can tell you what has been happing in the divisions as far as i know of up until i had to leave to to a medical condition. I was the starboard watch for division 174 the guys of 173/174 came together  pretty quick but heard from some of the girls that the female house they were not so close. we all work hard and the RDC's push us to the breaking point but its not that hard you just have to listen and follow instructions. im hoping to hear back from my rack mate who i sent a letter too when i got home 174 will always be my division.