This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

FIRST TIME HERE?

FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by partyofseven on December 9, 2020 at 2:27am

mom2blondies- Hey,  I know it is. And it was ok that he said I love you back. Cry and let it out and know that you will hear from him again in a few weeks pending no getting caught in the Co-Vid Rom loop. 

Keeping busy is key and start writing now that will help you as well. When you get that form letter you can mail those letters right away.

I am sending you big hugs and we are here with you every step of the way. Don't hesitate to ask any questions, someone will answer.

try to get some rest and tomorrow is a new day.

NewMilmom- That was beautiful what you wrote to mom2blondies. Thank you for posting and sharing that with her. I'm sure it will help her to feel better.

Good Night.   :)

VintageGal- Hey, Hope your day was good. Mine was busy but good.

Shortcake- Hey, it was good to see you post on here. How are you and your SR? His PIR is getting close right? Prayers for hubby to recover quickly.

Good Night Ladies.

Comment by NewMilmom on December 9, 2020 at 1:20am

mom2blondies - think the Santa Ana's are just So.CA...I had not heard of them or had them until we moved here.

Just relish the fact that your SR arrived safely & I know he felt your love in that call too.  And I am sure he will be fine.  I didn't get the scripted call as at work & he called dh at home.  Now is the time to practice telling yourself, "no new is good  news"... the Mom's on here taught me that when I started out & I tell it to myself daily several times.  Doesn't make the empty ache less  but, it does remind me that me is OK & safe where he is.

Our sailor division never earned a phone call home so when others were getting 1 we never did. My son in his letters was most upset as many in his division couldn't/wouldn't get their acts together.  It was heartbreaking to read those letters knowing he was trying so hard & others were not doing the same & it bringing the whole division down but, he survived & they managed to get to PIR (& from what I gathered that was even in doubt for a bit).  

We are all here to support each other & that is what this wonderful group does the best!  I personally would not have made it thus far except for the understanding & support of these amazing Navy Mom's.  Feel free to cry, vent, seek answers & advice as many have come before us & are always happy to help & give understanding & support.  

Hugs and prayers for you & your SR as you begin the ROM & Boot Camp journey.  And prayers your SR doesn't get caught in the Co-Vid ROM loop as many have.  

Write and once you have his address you can send off your letters.  Mine were just normal day to day tidbits plus inspirational thoughts/quotes & lots and lots of supportive messages.  Keep it always upbeat, positive & supportive no matter if you feel like you are falling apart don't let them know that... They need to concentrate on their tasks at hand & not worry about us on the home front.  Many of my letters were just a mix of quotes &affirmative messages with a picture taken of one of the pets, local places we hike and what not...I just printed on xerox paper and put in the envelope to mail.  I was always conscious of Not making the envelope be a flag so kept it to the standard letter size white business envelope with the address typed and 2 pieces of paper.

Just make sure you never send anything that would make the RDC notice (ie...stickers, drawings, or such) on the outside of  the envelope.  NO glitter/sparkles or color envelopes.. NO cards that make music/sounds or such either.

I was advised to keep it simple & plain... his birthday I just sent a simple birthday card in a plain white card envelope so it didn't look like a birthday card just a general card. 

So many things I know to remember but, if in doubt Ask... the wonderful admins. and other moms will be glad to help you.

Take care and now I must drop into bed...4am arrives early & I am running on less than 5 hours sleep already. 

 

Comment by mom2blondies on December 9, 2020 at 12:55am

That arrival phone call was pretty awful....so fast and just rattling it off and I was just trying to tell him I love him and lost it knowing that dry, fast reading was the last time I'll hear his voice for who knows how long. I am so upset with myself because that is not the last thing I wanted him to hear from me is me crying. I feel like it just left him feeling terrible instead of loved. And I really hope he doesn't get in trouble for going off script and saying "I love you" back because that would be my fault. 

Comment by VintageGal on December 9, 2020 at 12:54am

Mom2Blondies ~ Wrapping you up in a virtual hug! Here begins your Boot Camp journey and we'll be here with you every step of the way! 

Shortcake ~ I was wondering how you were. So sorry to hear that your husband had kidney stones. Prayers to him and your family. How far away is you SRs PIR? 

Northwoodsmom ~ What a blessing that you were able to see your Sailor that morning. Sounds like you had quite the beautiful adventure! Have a good night! 

Leslie, Warriorprotector, and all of our beautiful mamas ~ have a good night <3 

Comment by mom2blondies on December 9, 2020 at 12:17am

NewMilmom I wonder if we are 'neighbors' because we are having horrible Santa Ana winds here....are these a thing outside of So Cal?  

I was able to talk to my son today, he called me from the plane as soon as they landed in Chicago. I was getting teary and I was at work so I let him go sooner than I would have liked but then texted him everything I wanted to tell him but couldn't without breaking down....and I was working at the microscope which is really difficult to do with blurry teary vision, UHG! I guess I'll hear his voice again some time tonight when he gets his official arrival phone call. I'm used to going several days without seeing him. He worked at the Fire Dept and they would do 96-108 hour shifts but I could text/call and knew where to find him if I needed him. I'd always be happily surprised if I drove around the corner and saw his car.....and that reflex is still there, I see his car and think, "Oh good he's home." but nope, he's not. Last night I opened the freezer and there were the Reeces he put in there from Halloween that he never ate and leaky eyes

Oh man! Just got the arrival phone call and it was so fast and I was trying not to cry because I didn't want him to feel badly but not knowing when I will hear his voice again was too much! I told him I love him and he said, "I love you, bye." I don't know if he was even supposed to say that and now I'm hoping he doesn't get in trouble for that. 

Comment by Northwoodsmom on December 8, 2020 at 11:01pm

Leslie, my son's PIR was the first ceremony canceled for families to come. They were still being shipped as usual to their next station most flew out, mine flew the next morning out of O'Hare. It was so awesome watching them all get off the buses and head in through the big class doors with the military music playing in the background.  Now the sometime take buses so I don't know how you will know how they will be traveling. If your close though I would go for it. It gave me so much peace of mind it was well worth it. I live just 5 hours drive from Chicago. My son called and told us his flight info. It was pretty simple and at 1:30 in the morning there was no traffic. I will never regret going. Mom's need that reassurance and that hug.

Comment by Leslie on December 8, 2020 at 10:49pm

Northwoodsmom - thank you! What great information -- I know it was probably not your intent, but I would love to know more about your drive to the airport. I know you are right and this process is forming our kids into Sailors, but once he has completed this first stage, I sure would like a chance to see his face -- at least for a short time!

Comment by Leslie on December 8, 2020 at 10:49pm

Northwoodsmom - thank you! What great information -- I know it was probably not your intent, but I would love to know more about your drive to the airport. I know you are right and this process is forming our kids into Sailors, but once he has completed this first stage, I sure would like a chance to see his face -- at least for a short time!

Comment by Leslie on December 8, 2020 at 10:48pm

Northwoodsmom - thank you! What great information -- I know it was probably not your intent, but I would love to know more about your drive to the airport. I know you are right and this process is forming our kids into Sailors, but once he has completed this first stage, I sure would like a chance to see his face -- at least for a short time!

Comment by Leslie on December 8, 2020 at 10:48pm

Northwoodsmom - thank you! What great information -- I know it was probably not your intent, but I would love to know more about your drive to the airport. I know you are right and this process is forming our kids into Sailors, but once he has completed this first stage, I sure would like a chance to see his face -- at least for a short time!

 
 
 

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